PAL and buying ammo question

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Doug
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WOW! The software on this site automatically changes a four letter word that rhymes with "kiss" into "pee pee." :lol:

How wholesome! :P

Up until a moment ago, I was not thinking that the Old English word for urinate was a bad one.......... :roll:

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Why LeBaron's has pee pee poor customer service and inventory at times...

They stay in business? Doubtful this will affect that CTC stores bottom line.

Now before I get chewed out here..I think that:

1) Stores that treat customers badly should get some kind of retribution

2) That what happened is really worrisome and I hope Orresy gets the reasoning for this and the copy of his PAL returned....
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thanks for all the reply's and advice guys. I plan on calling the store back again tomorrow as I have given them 4-5 days to return my call from the first time. A few posts back I saw that bardern stated someone with a PAL copy could but firearms from SIR...is this true?

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Unfortunately yes....

But I think SIR may ask for another piece of ID like a drivers license etc.
I also think they may be strict about hipping only to the address on the PAL and the license. However I am not sure as I have never ordered a gun before.
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I do not know about SIR, but I have surely purchased firearms over the phone/Internet and only provided my PAL NUMBER, not a copy.

But when it comes time for a transfer, a licenced dealer still needs to know full name, address, DOB, etc for the buyer. In a gun deal from a private individual, the buyer must contact CFC with a number of personal details that are not on the PAL.

I think the likelihood of a photocopied PAL being used to purchase a gun is just about zero.

(After all, most criminals buy unregistered guns from fellow criminals, and avoid all of the hassle and BS.) :roll:

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your PAL does not include a civic address. I noticed this when I went for a new health card and couldn't use my PAL for ID as it doesn't include an address. :shock:

I have not ordered thru SIR but I THINK that all you need is your PAL. :?

Doug you are right on about criminals and buying guns illegally but lots of people do not have pal for whatever reason. There are fake hunting licenses out there so I would assume if you had contections you could find people looking to buy firearms under the table too.
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back to bardern.......at most gun shows that I have attended, there are folks looking to buy "unpapered" guns, and fellows selling the same.

Some of the would-be buyers and sellers are undercover law enforcement officers.

Most members of LUFA will buy and sell unregistered firearms without a lot of attention to whether the buyer or seller has a PAL. I am not aware of a case where a LUFA member has been charged with an offence under the Firearms Act. Unless Bruce Montague is a member of LUFA....

But anyways I think that the chance of orrsey's photocopied PAL being used in a nefarious way is about zero. Nothwithstanding that fact, it is an unwarranted and unacceptable action on the part of the CTC clerk, and needs (in my view) to be addressed.

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