Pro bass White lake

[Bass Addict]

The reason a Bass Boat sometimes travels at 140km's is because it can ..

[Prairieboy]

Way off topic here, but a badassbass boat doing 75mph in full plane throws a hell of a lot less of a wake then a do-gooder in a fishing boat doing >30mph not on full plane.

Stay away from the shore and the little ones anchored down to the rock pile, and in the words of my idol Jeff Spikoli "I'll be just fine"

[IFish]

The reason a Bass Boat sometimes travels at 140km's is because it can ..

Missed the point bud... nothing wrong with a bass boat or any boat doing 140km/hr. Its when they buzz other boaters at that speed that is the problem.


And by "buzz", I mean come so close to you that you think they don't see you and may run into you.


And its not all bass boaters... maybe at most 1%? So this bad rep for bass boaters is totally unwarranted and undeserving... it applies to all high-speed boaters.

[IFish]

I'm not sure what the Pro Bass is about. It was a SEBO and I think he puts on a good show. No, I did not fish it and I'm considerate to everyone on any lake, I'm sure most are. Mind you, there will always be idiots no matter what you do,where you are or go.

Walleye jigging on White lake for bass opener, I'm not sure what you expected. SEBO aside, there's w/e warriors, "local's", and American's that love to fish this lake. All of this has been going on for some time, it's nothing new. If you want a quiet lake, White Lake is not for you.

300hp on a big bass boat, what's the point? It doesn't mean it has to go wide open, that's what the boat is rated for. It also doesn't mean it's any faster then some bass boats with a 200hp.

Kayaks being flipped by a 20ft bass boat flying along? A bass boat "flying along" has next to NO wake. I have a 14ft tinny that puts off more wake at 10mph.

I could go on...but...

The point is dangerous boating. People parked in a runabout thinking they were going to be hit is not good.

I think yours and his definition of "flying along" differs. Most bass boats do put out a substantial wake at slower speeds. I'd guess they were inexperienced in the kayaks.

Its true about the 300hp... I'd bet the guy with that boat never even got close to opening 'er up to full throttle.

[jcuts9]

I also fished that event and whatever occurred on other parts of the lake well i don't know.

What I will say is this about anyone. The upper end of that lake is very narrow. You have the small island then the rocky shoal on your left and a small piece of water to get through between the shoal and shore.

It AMAZED me how people would just sit in the middle between that shoal and the shoreline you need to run in order to get through to clear the point and get out in main lake.

What do you expect anyone to do in that situation? No matter if in a bass boat or any boat? You only have so much room to get through......

I think some people sit in that stretch just so they can complain about people buzzing through.

If you know a train is coming through do you sit on the tracks? Well if you know at 7am there is going to be 80 plus boats coming through why do you sit there??? Please don't say because its the best spot on the lake, that lake has tons of shoreline and plenty of great spots.

People in boats need to be respectful to others in boats and on shore, but at the same time people need to stop looking for reasons to complain about anything they can and enjoy what you have up there in Canada, and be thankful its in your back yard!!!!!

[IFish]

I also fished that event and whatever occurred on other parts of the lake well i don't know.

What I will say is this about anyone. The upper end of that lake is very narrow. You have the small island then the rocky shoal on your left and a small piece of water to get through between the shoal and shore.

It AMAZED me how people would just sit in the middle between that shoal and the shoreline you need to run in order to get through to clear the point and get out in main lake.

What do you expect anyone to do in that situation? No matter if in a bass boat or any boat? You only have so much room to get through......

I think some people sit in that stretch just so they can complain about people buzzing through.

If you know a train is coming through do you sit on the tracks? Well if you know at 7am there is going to be 80 plus boats coming through why do you sit there??? Please don't say because its the best spot on the lake, that lake has tons of shoreline and plenty of great spots.

People in boats need to be respectful to others in boats and on shore, but at the same time people need to stop looking for reasons to complain about anything they can and enjoy what you have up there in Canada, and be thankful its in your back yard!!!!!

Yup, that's true. If you sit in a funnel part of the lake then you can't not expect someone to come by you. Hopefully they didn't come by fully on the throttle if that section is as small as it sounds. I hope you're not suggesting that its okay to fly them in this situation? FYI... it isn`t. If they're blocking the way then its different and you should tell them to move but if it means that you have to fly by them with minimal clearance it isn't.

Also... nobody needs to know that 80 high-speed boats are about to take off at 7am. I'll asssume that somebody was fishing near the take-off point? Why would you assume that he was aware 7am was when the "train" was coming through? How would anyone actually know unless they were active in bass fishing or maybe some fishing sites? If he was as close as you say I hope the organizers would have appropriately warned him.

A little common sense is all that is needed for everyone to have a good day on the water.

My 'buzzing' complaints are just regarding when its totally unecessary for it to happen.

[IFish]

I also fished that event and whatever occurred on other parts of the lake well i don't know.

What I will say is this about anyone. The upper end of that lake is very narrow. You have the small island then the rocky shoal on your left and a small piece of water to get through between the shoal and shore.

It AMAZED me how people would just sit in the middle between that shoal and the shoreline you need to run in order to get through to clear the point and get out in main lake.

What do you expect anyone to do in that situation? No matter if in a bass boat or any boat? You only have so much room to get through......

I think some people sit in that stretch just so they can complain about people buzzing through.

If you know a train is coming through do you sit on the tracks? Well if you know at 7am there is going to be 80 plus boats coming through why do you sit there??? Please don't say because its the best spot on the lake, that lake has tons of shoreline and plenty of great spots.

People in boats need to be respectful to others in boats and on shore, but at the same time people need to stop looking for reasons to complain about anything they can and enjoy what you have up there in Canada, and be thankful its in your back yard!!!!!

"I think some people sit in that stretch just so they can complain about people buzzing through."

Oh really? What makes you think that? Did you buzz them? Did you fly by with little space? Or did you slow down and just go through like you should?

"What do you expect anyone to do in that situation? No matter if in a bass boat or any boat? You only have so much room to get through......"

You're expected to navigate your boat safely as per the Canadian boat operator's regulations and most importantly with some common sense and as a fellow man in a situation like that. If there was so little room then those guys needed to move...

[IFish]

Kudos to Kuno... couldn't have wrote it any better

Yes, we know Ted. You've got grammar mistakes in your short sentence already. But I surely do as well... so be it, eh... bud.

Nothing wrong with bass fishing, bass boats and bass tournaments.... the problem is with maniac operators. The problem is the few guys that drive like lunatics around other boaters.

PS Might want to give your blinders a little nudge, bud. They were slippin'... wouldn't want you lose sight of Kuno's behind.

[IFish]

I think it's great that everyone has an opinion. As TK pointed out, it's great to be Canadian.

As a tournament angler, guy who grew up on the rideau river and someone who likes to fish out of a canoe as well, I have seen pretty much everything that can happen on the water.

I've been accused of fishing bass while fishing for splake see this report: http://www.fish-hawk.net/hawktalk/viewt ... highlight=

Had cottagers and homeowners run out down to the dock to tell me to move on.

Had to swerve at the last minute because a Kayaker was out in open water with a dark red kayak and dark PFD on virtually invisible to boaters.

The list goes on.

TK has a good point about impressing your ideals upon others. It's clear that some (most) won't understand that desire to strap yourself into a boat that does 70 miles per hour and race down the lake like Ricky Bobby (I prefer Cal Naughton Jr. myself). It's the same reason why some guys are NASCAR fans and others like golf - personal preference.

Now admittedly, there is more than one or two guys in the region that are inconsiderate bass fishermen, however let's not paint all bass guys or gals with the same brush. Most of us are decent upstanding citizens who will do anything to help a fellow angler.

I can tell you though that guys who fish tournaments will continue to fish docks and shoreline structure. That won't change and neither will the increasingly common landowner who thinks it is perfectly fine to walk up to someone they DON'T KNOW and who is NOT on their property and tell them to back off.

Can you imagine walking down the sidewalk in front of some guys house in barrhaven and a guy running to the end of their driveway to tell you to move along cause you are too close...different situation but the principle is exactly the same. You wouldn't allow someone to infringe on your right to use the sidewalk and why would anyone allow another individual to infringe upon your rights to fish on public property.

This is why the government enacted the Heritage Hunting and Fishing Act.

Now, to go back to the original post on this string, Charbyc's post was more than a little one sided. I know because I fished that tournament and pretty sure I didn't hit anyone in a Kayak, well at least none of the locals cause I'm sure I would have heard something smack off the side of the boat or noticed a scuff mark on the hull...

To my knowledge, there was only one bass boat with a 300 HP motor on the back and he was fishing with his 6-year old son and wasn't going to be a speed demon with his son in the boat.

There were roughly 82 boats in the tournament, one or two incidents on a very busy lake in an eight hour day, things like this can and do happen here on the Mississippi regularly (mostly RJ's fault I'm sure...). I didn't notice Charbyc point out the 80+ other boats that went the entire day without causing an incident.

In closing, I can tell you I personally putted through three areas where locals were fishing in smaller boats as to not disturb their fishing, I didn't get so much as a nod from them let alone a hug from any local when I was finally off the water...very hurtful indeed.

Here Here ..........

I'll challenge anybody to try and match this statement......

Common sense and the regulations match this statement... they trump it and ground and pound it buddy.

"Had to swerve at the last minute because a Kayaker was out in open water with a dark red kayak and dark PFD on virtually invisible to boaters."

Damn, that's some hardship bud. A kayaker in "red, DARK RED?" And you had to swerve to avoid him? You're over-driving your speed. That isn't the kayaker's fault. Not one bit his fault, bud. He has the right to be there. Was it huge chop? Even still... he gets bounced around more than you would in a bass boat. Even a dark red kayak should be visible to you in big chop. And it wasn't... You have a responsiblity. How can you not see a red object in front of your fast-moving vehicle? Keep your eyes peeled when driving at speed.

I do alot of windsurfing. I do crash sometimes. The best times are in big chop. So a head, board being bounced around in the water... it might take me a minute or two to get back up. I don't want to get run over. You should have seen me and then noticed me go down. The engines should get slowed and you should be a little cautious.

You should be aware of what is going on around you.

I guess you normally aren't as you thought it was some sort of 'incident' to have to swerve to avoid a dark red kayak. Is 'red' a 'bad' color for you? It shouldn't be. If you can't see a red kayak on the water and see it as an annoying thing that you "had to swerve at the last minute" then you have no place operating any sort of high-speed vehicle.

The open waters of a lake are not necessarily a 'free-zone' to let 'er rip and set your responsibilities aside.

Or maybe you're writing this from the 'Red Sea' and couldn't sea the red kayak vs the red water... my bad, even i know the Red Sea isn't that red. No excuse bud... there is no excuse for not seeing a red kayak. You were over-driving your vision and your abilities.

[JimmyBuffett]

Kudos to Kuno... couldn't have wrote it any better

Yes, we know Ted. You've got grammar mistakes in your short sentence already. But I surely do as well... so be it, eh... bud.

Nothing wrong with bass fishing, bass boats and bass tournaments.... the problem is with maniac operators. The problem is the few guys that drive like lunatics around other boaters.

PS Might want to give your blinders a little nudge, bud. They were slippin'... wouldn't want you lose sight of Kuno's behind.

Listen I.... I don't know who you are nor do I give a sh!t... I find it quite odd how you joined this site 3 days after this tourney with what seems to be a vendetta towards all bass boats, and a sole intent to enforce this so called "slow down within 20 feet of all boats" rule...

The reality is maniac operators can be in any form of machine let it be a sea doo, runabout, jet boat or low and behold a bass boat...

As for the grammar BUD... how about this F-OFF See ya on the water ITypesalot... don't get buzzed eh.

[bardern]

I swore to myself I was done with posting on F-H. Against my better judgement here I go again.

I know everyone is entitled to an opinion but F-H is now known in the area as the home of the "Looney anti bass boat and bass tourney" site.

ALMOST EVERY post anymore turns into a pee pee match between a few parties. Too bad because all the quality posts and posters are being overshadowed the sites Loonies.

I wonder how these conversations would go if all parties were face to face and could not hide behind a monitor?

[IFish]

I swore to myself I was done with posting on F-H. Against my better judgement here I go again.

I know everyone is entitled to an opinion but F-H is now known in the area as the home of the "Looney anti bass boat and bass tourney" site.

ALMOST EVERY post anymore turns into a pee pee match between a few parties. Too bad because all the quality posts and posters are being overshadowed the sites Loonies.

I wonder how these conversations would go if all parties were face to face and could not hide behind a monitor?

You lie. BIGTIME. Its only the last few days that there have been some anti-bass boat talk... and most talkers are defending the bass boaters like they should. Its not about the bass-boats... its about dangerous drivers. You didn't read or research your post too much did you.

A for effort... D for content and accuracy.

[IFish]

Kudos to Kuno... couldn't have wrote it any better

Yes, we know Ted. You've got grammar mistakes in your short sentence already. But I surely do as well... so be it, eh... bud.

Nothing wrong with bass fishing, bass boats and bass tournaments.... the problem is with maniac operators. The problem is the few guys that drive like lunatics around other boaters.

PS Might want to give your blinders a little nudge, bud. They were slippin'... wouldn't want you lose sight of Kuno's behind.

Listen I.... I don't know who you are nor do I give a sh!t... I find it quite odd how you joined this site 3 days after this tourney with what seems to be a vendetta towards all bass boats, and a sole intent to enforce this so called "slow down within 20 feet of all boats" rule...

The reality is maniac operators can be in any form of machine let it be a sea doo, runabout, jet boat or low and behold a bass boat...

As for the grammar BUD... how about this F-OFF See ya on the water ITypesalot... don't get buzzed eh.

C'mere and tell me bud... I'm Mr. rich stuff aren't I? That's what you called me. You demonstrated your ignorance to the world when you wrote that. And you made a threat against my "runabout" as you called it... I welcome you to come and try something. I welcome you.

[kunobasski]

Wait that subject line did not come out like I wanted...And the back space button is broken on my vintage commadore 64 keyboard.

Anyways, to read a post is one thing and to understand them is another. I should know.

But in rereading Ifish's posts, a commonality of explainable direction is easily noticed, and motive, though at this point can just be assumed, is fasioned towards negative, regressive thought process that is usually linked to a person with a disability or mental instability.

As we disect the series of post made by Ifish, we will notice that they follow the trend of introducing the initial message in a positive tone. However they never directly linked to the previous post, and almost always sign off with a negataive undertone.

These characteristics are overshadowed by a brooding individuals malicious plan to perform unthinkable damage to the bass fishing communities reputation. WHich as we all know is for the most part accepted positively more often then it is not. However, this childish behaviour is encouraged only in response by sane, like minded, free thinking individuals.

In my professional opinion, I use the word professional in the most stearn way, as I have a large study filled with complex books depicting human character and internet chat room society, that this paricular person is, and for no good reason a cronic disrupter of progressive posting. In medical terms it is called "assruptus opinionator syndrom".

Again, common in children, mentally instable, poorly mannered or ill adjusted personalities who have a difficult time contributing to society, so they do the opposite and become a destructive or counter productive individual, hence justifying thier existance.

Oddly, this syndrom also has been rearing its ungly head with people who have been victimized by the 1970's and were unable to let go of the fact that Donna Summers will NOT be putting out a new album, the band America did not have Neil young in it, even though the singer sounded like him, and disco, no matter how cool you thought it was, is never gonna be recognized as traditional dance, rather a good cover to go to a club, drink $100 vodka and snort cocain from a strippers navel.

I feel sorry for you Ifish, I truly do, and I hope the posters of FH.net understand your situation and help you through this troubled time instead of aggrivating your condition. They have no idea how bad this disease can be and the toll it takes on a person over time.

Good luck Friend, and get well soon..

Militant.

[IFish]

LOL at your post kunobasski.

Just don't run over anyone in your boat, bud. That's the point. Nobody hates bass boats, bass fishing or bass tournaments. You all need to behave as responsible men... not as little boys looking for the loot bag. Is that too much to ask? Its too bad your books didn't tell you that...