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A lot of great info in here... I had a recommendation of the Dobyns Savvy from another member... got me looking at the web page... and it provoked this thread with the line weights and such.

@ BA - #2 was that freak of nature Unicorn that was at Carl's house!
#3... I think you made a mistake. I would NEVER take a picture of a blue jay unless it was it's horrible and gruesome death. Come on BA... # 3 was to the right of the four corners... Asian Banks...

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Since this is the rod talk thread, I would like to know how important is a good rod when it comes to catching fish? Before this forum, I was one to fish with just one rod and reel combo that was on sale and because it worked for me. So I want to know, how important is it to have the right rod compared to your normal rod?
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Ever try pulling a bass out of the slop with a walleye jigging rod? Do that once, and you'll realize you need a frog rod. I have 5 rods on board usually, and I'm actually one short. On any given day, I'll have a frog rod, another baitcaster for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits, a spinning rod with braid for senkos, swimbaits, poppers and cranks, and 2 walleye jigging outfits. I'll have an extra baitcaster next season for cranks.
I realize that's not realistic for everyone, especially if you're fishing out of a tinny, but 2 rods is the bare minimum I would fish with in these parts.

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Unlike some, I don't spend a whole lot on frog rods (unless I'm planning on using it as a jig rod)

A more expensive, higher end blank will store and release energy better than a cheaper rod for sure but I can cast further than I need to with a mid grade rod of appropriate length weight and action and
Ultra high modulus also becomes less important when sensitivity isn't a priority.

I'm Happy with my $100-$110 St. Croix Mojo Bass Slop-N-Frog (MBC70HF) but it is a bit on the heavy side. Spend a little more and you can get something a bit lighter.
I have heard good things about the Abu Garcia Veritas but haven't tried one myself.
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bl8ant wrote: I'm Happy with my $100-$110 St. Croix Mojo Bass Slop-N-Frog (MBC70HF) but it is a bit on the heavy side. Spend a little more and you can get something a bit lighter....
Hmmmm.... Have you seen my froggin' rod? LOL! I have attachments for it; Pitchfork head, spade head, pick-axe head...

and in this configuration, it works something like a fishing rod.

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THAT my friend is a genuine Shimano FX - 7 foot long with a foam handle hunk of fiberglass. It WAS a two piece, but it has been 2 years since I have been able to get it apart, so for all intents and purposes, it is a one piece now.

Seriously... the FX weighs a ton. I did not realize it until I started getting tendinitis in my shoulder and elbow, and started buying marginally better rods. (Instead of $19.99 rods I started in on the $49.99 ones..) I have had a long look at BA's Mojo (MOJO BABY!) and I like it. Serious backbone and no real weight to them.

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bl8ant wrote:Unlike some, I don't spend a whole lot on frog rods (unless I'm planning on using it as a jig rod)

A more expensive, higher end blank will store and release energy better than a cheaper rod for sure but I can cast further than I need to with a mid grade rod of appropriate length weight and action and
Ultra high modulus also becomes less important when sensitivity isn't a priority.

I'm Happy with my $100-$110 St. Croix Mojo Bass Slop-N-Frog (MBC70HF) but it is a bit on the heavy side. Spend a little more and you can get something a bit lighter.
I have heard good things about the Abu Garcia Veritas but haven't tried one myself.
I agree - sensitivity is far from the deciding factor for a frog rod. When you heart stops due to a topwater explosion... that's the cue to count to two, then set the hook. No sensitivity required. ;) As such, uber-expensive frog rods are mainly for higher quality blanks and a lighter overall package. That being said...

I have a 7'3" Heavy X-Fast Vendetta by Abu Garcia. It use it as my flippin' rod (no rom in car for anything much longer). I think this rod would excel at throwing frogs too... I just like my Kistler Carbon Steel better for it.

The 7'3" H Vendetta can probably be picked up for around $75 at Paddletales, last time I checked! :)
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curls wrote: I have a 7'3" Heavy X-Fast Vendetta by Abu Garcia...The 7'3" H Vendetta can probably be picked up for around $75 at Paddletales, last time I checked! :)
That is right in my $ wheel house! I will check out some reviews on-line! Thanks curls!!

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cprince wrote:
curls wrote: I have a 7'3" Heavy X-Fast Vendetta by Abu Garcia...The 7'3" H Vendetta can probably be picked up for around $75 at Paddletales, last time I checked! :)
That is right in my $ wheel house! I will check out some reviews on-line! Thanks curls!!

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Tournament-winning fish in my avater pic was caught on this rod... but on a jig. ;) There's your review, now GO SEE ED!! :)
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i need a 7 foot piece of metal. nothing else.

set the hook.

bass flies over any type of cover it was hidding in straight to the live well.
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curls wrote:
bl8ant wrote:Unlike some, I don't spend a whole lot on frog rods (unless I'm planning on using it as a jig rod)

A more expensive, higher end blank will store and release energy better than a cheaper rod for sure but I can cast further than I need to with a mid grade rod of appropriate length weight and action and
Ultra high modulus also becomes less important when sensitivity isn't a priority.

I'm Happy with my $100-$110 St. Croix Mojo Bass Slop-N-Frog (MBC70HF) but it is a bit on the heavy side. Spend a little more and you can get something a bit lighter.
I have heard good things about the Abu Garcia Veritas but haven't tried one myself.
I agree - sensitivity is far from the deciding factor for a frog rod. When you heart stops due to a topwater explosion... that's the cue to count to two, then set the hook. No sensitivity required. ;) As such, uber-expensive frog rods are mainly for higher quality blanks and a lighter overall package. That being said...

I have a 7'3" Heavy X-Fast Vendetta by Abu Garcia. It use it as my flippin' rod (no rom in car for anything much longer). I think this rod would excel at throwing frogs too... I just like my Kistler Carbon Steel better for it.

The 7'3" H Vendetta can probably be picked up for around $75 at Paddletales, last time I checked! :)
I have heard nothing but great things about the Vendetta for the price. Good review here Cprince

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewabuvendettavtc696.html
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I use the 7'3 H Vendetta for froggies and its perfect. I wouldn't spend a penny more on a rod for frogs.
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The St. Croix MOJO Bass Slop n' Frog is a great option. Heavy with a fast tip, it does the job for a fairly reasonable price.
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If all rods were rated on the same scale buying a rod would be easy but each company has their own dogma when it comes to power and action etc.

The only way to really tell the action of the rod is put to the rod under tension and make it the same for all rods in this category so the data can be compared. It is being developed and it's called CCS.

Custom rod builders have been using it for years. It would make buying a rod easier to buy and it would rods are rated depeding on line strength and lure weight.

How would you like your favorite rod in a spinning version and a baitcaster version it is possible with a custom build. And more than likely you get the rod you want with the right action because the blank selected is tested before the rod is made and that means you get the proper tool to do the job.

I agree with the action of the rod being mentioned as having a soft tip and a fast action so you can take up slack quickly and set the hook but also don't over look length. A 7' 6" rod will do a better job than a 7' rod. And it will also give you the soft tip with plenty of rod left to set the hook. Now imagine having the option to make that rod either spinning or casting thats the option with a custom rod.

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