Ice fishing and Drinking
.The anectdote joco said I se it my self as I was at that derby and I did se the woman on the van selling shooters and when the guy show is badges to them. Me i dont drink at all and I se peoples drinking and been drunk in there shack and some of them even return back home and they should not be driving at all.
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carp-starter
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The laws for ice huts are similar to boating laws – see the reference below for the boating laws.
A hut must first have permanent - sleeping accommodations, cooking and sanitary facilities. Then it depends as to where the hut is – just like in boating. The huts must be well secured to something solid.
Based on these rules, there is no question as to why it is OK to drink in most of those northern Ice Cabins – it meets all requirements of the law of being a private place or residence. It has the facilities and it is secured.
I am certain that most huts on Lake Simcoe do not meet the requirements. They simply have not been built to be a “residenceâ€. A bench is not really a permanent sleeping accommodation. A white pail will never be considered as being permanent. To make a galley permanent is probably the easiest thing to modify and make legal with a couple dozen screws.
The one thing you have to be aware of is that once you step outside your hut, you will no longer be in your residence and so you have to follow all other alcohol laws – you can be arrested for drinking or being intoxicated, having an opened bottle of booze and etc.
I have never fished on ice but I have boated in my 32 ½ cruiser.
carp-starter
REFERENCE
http://rcaf.cps-ecp.org/alcohol.html
Ontario Liquor Licence Act Regulation 718: Consuming Liquor in a Boat
Sec.3(7) A boat with permanent sleeping accommodations and permanent cooking and sanitary facilities, other than a boat used to carry passengers for hire, is considered to be a private place while the boat is at anchor or is secured to the dock or land.
A hut must first have permanent - sleeping accommodations, cooking and sanitary facilities. Then it depends as to where the hut is – just like in boating. The huts must be well secured to something solid.
Based on these rules, there is no question as to why it is OK to drink in most of those northern Ice Cabins – it meets all requirements of the law of being a private place or residence. It has the facilities and it is secured.
I am certain that most huts on Lake Simcoe do not meet the requirements. They simply have not been built to be a “residenceâ€. A bench is not really a permanent sleeping accommodation. A white pail will never be considered as being permanent. To make a galley permanent is probably the easiest thing to modify and make legal with a couple dozen screws.
The one thing you have to be aware of is that once you step outside your hut, you will no longer be in your residence and so you have to follow all other alcohol laws – you can be arrested for drinking or being intoxicated, having an opened bottle of booze and etc.
I have never fished on ice but I have boated in my 32 ½ cruiser.
carp-starter
REFERENCE
http://rcaf.cps-ecp.org/alcohol.html
Ontario Liquor Licence Act Regulation 718: Consuming Liquor in a Boat
Sec.3(7) A boat with permanent sleeping accommodations and permanent cooking and sanitary facilities, other than a boat used to carry passengers for hire, is considered to be a private place while the boat is at anchor or is secured to the dock or land.
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Trophymuskie
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The only problem I see with it is that it is ilegal on the Ontario side.
Getting drunk and driving anything is terrible and there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation.
I'm a big guy and can consume 1 per hour and not blow over, but I guess it must be old age as I don't see the need of cold drinks on the ice. Seems like it would be more of a hot chocolate of coffee kind of mix.
Then again I have not ice fished since the early 90's. I do remember having fun watching someone with a buzz running for a flag though.
Getting drunk and driving anything is terrible and there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation.
I'm a big guy and can consume 1 per hour and not blow over, but I guess it must be old age as I don't see the need of cold drinks on the ice. Seems like it would be more of a hot chocolate of coffee kind of mix.
Then again I have not ice fished since the early 90's. I do remember having fun watching someone with a buzz running for a flag though.
Catch and release them all
Richard Collin
Richard Collin
I know many of you love it, but anytime I've been ice-fishing I've found it incredibly boring. As such, I understand how alcohol can make it endurable. I know there's the socializing stuff the fresh air, etc.... but I didn't have to go out on the friggin' ice to chat with my friends and get a breath of fresh air. 
As an alternative to drinking, have any of the drinkers thought about reading a book, rehearsing their roles for their up-coming local theatre productions, taking a distance education course, bird-watching, or any other edifying activities during those idle hours of waiting on the ice for fish to bite?
Most of you are very responsible, I'm sure. However, alcohol on the water in any season is setting the stage for potential problems including the endangerment of someone else's life. For those of you who drink while ice fishing, do you only take the 2 beers you wrote about or an entire case? Do you honestly limit yourselves to just two?
As for the comments about lighting a spliff....please tell us you're joking. If not, when exactly do you graduate emotionally & intellectually from adolescence?
As an alternative to drinking, have any of the drinkers thought about reading a book, rehearsing their roles for their up-coming local theatre productions, taking a distance education course, bird-watching, or any other edifying activities during those idle hours of waiting on the ice for fish to bite?
Most of you are very responsible, I'm sure. However, alcohol on the water in any season is setting the stage for potential problems including the endangerment of someone else's life. For those of you who drink while ice fishing, do you only take the 2 beers you wrote about or an entire case? Do you honestly limit yourselves to just two?
As for the comments about lighting a spliff....please tell us you're joking. If not, when exactly do you graduate emotionally & intellectually from adolescence?
Time's fun when you're having flies.
you find ice fishing boring?Well try skipping the leading role in the play, reading books (unless its a comic book) etc. On your next trip out, pour your self a shot of whiskey, twist up a left hander, drill your hole , set the tip up and enjoy the day with your fishing buddies, cause its soon going to be monday morning and its back to practicing adolecent behaviours again.
In no way am I advocating drinking and driving, smoking up and driving etc. That is only for the stupid and irresponsible. The key that has been mentioned in several posts is moderation.
A glass or two of milk a day is healthy, but drinking the entire package isn't.
I think we all need to remember that there are several countries where daily life brings a whole lot more challenges to survival, you might get blowed up just for going to a cafe by a suicide bomber etc. While back here in Canada our governments keep imposiing more and more stupid little laws, I myself figure I break about a half dozen laws each day before noon with out thinking about it, and none of them put anyone, including myself at any risk. (do your own self check)
To each his own, everyone should be allowed to do what ever they feel like while maintaining an un obstructed view of their ice fishing holes provided they are not putting anyone else at risk. If the fun police come along, pay the fine, I just consider it the "fun tax"
In no way am I advocating drinking and driving, smoking up and driving etc. That is only for the stupid and irresponsible. The key that has been mentioned in several posts is moderation.
A glass or two of milk a day is healthy, but drinking the entire package isn't.
I think we all need to remember that there are several countries where daily life brings a whole lot more challenges to survival, you might get blowed up just for going to a cafe by a suicide bomber etc. While back here in Canada our governments keep imposiing more and more stupid little laws, I myself figure I break about a half dozen laws each day before noon with out thinking about it, and none of them put anyone, including myself at any risk. (do your own self check)
To each his own, everyone should be allowed to do what ever they feel like while maintaining an un obstructed view of their ice fishing holes provided they are not putting anyone else at risk. If the fun police come along, pay the fine, I just consider it the "fun tax"
C'mon MLR fishboy is right, you should probably start going to the NAC and watching some plays and acting in some plays. If you start now, come winter you will have an appreciation of the arts.
When that happens you will find that you will not have to trudge through the snow to get to the shack anymore tou can skip out or tippi-toe out to the shack with much less effort.
Dont forget flowers and some nice paintings for the shack
TLunge
When that happens you will find that you will not have to trudge through the snow to get to the shack anymore tou can skip out or tippi-toe out to the shack with much less effort.
Dont forget flowers and some nice paintings for the shack
TLunge