Getting fed up with hearing this

[RJ]

Soccer or Football?

Blech...

[FishingIsHealing]

Sickening, that really pee pee me off.....

Farms also pollute quite a bit. Cows are not good for the river....

But in reality, it's nothign compared to the sewage leak....

Why are they doing this?

Where is it coming from?

The sewage plant in Orleans area?

SOmeone should be held accountable......

==Thomas==

[spinner]

Once the city figures out the sports team, the OC transpo deal then and only then will they start thinking about sewage so that should be around 2050.

I had a great idea and that was to fine them $1 for every litre they dump into the river and use it to fix the problem.

Wait....wait ....What about the Bridge(where oh where and when will it be?)

We should start a few more year after year repetitive, costly, make work studies and meetings!!

Looks like the crap problem falls into a year after year no end in sight issue as well.....

[Bondo]

Well the overflow couldn't have be as a result of anything from my house. My 3 and a half year old clogged the toilet several days ago. After much flushing (days worth) and no release I concluded he must have jammed a toy in there.

Step 1. Snake toilet - no result

Step 2. Drain and remove toilet - no toy

Step 3. Remove softball sized log jam of $h!t from the bottom end of toilet with a spoon (with respirator attached to face). Did I mention he is 3 and a half?

Step 4. Plug sewer drain with thick rag (remember this part, it is important later) to prevent build up of sewer gasses in house

Step 5. Off to Home Depot when I notice that the flange is sitting 3/4 of an inch below floor grade (I hate my builder), luckily hasn't leaked up to this point.

Step 6. Install new flange extenders and wax rings and re-attach toilet

Step 7. Flush and realize you left the @#$%!*& rag in the floor drain when you re-attached toilet

Step 8. See step 2. REMOVE RAG. See step 6

Seriously, that Ottawa River crap (pardon the pun) has got to stop. This has been going on for how many years????? Why is the Ministry not forcing the City to fix whatever the problem is. I dont get it.

[Kpin]

@ Bondo...I'm lmfao but he's right, as are many more.

As our local fishery, we should be alarmed. The fact it's one of the best muskie fisheries in all of the planet gives us reason to be irate

Once gone, an ecosystem takes generations to repair...

it's common sense...

[smokercraft]

I can see why everyone is upset and frustrated... Up until not long ago I felt the same way. That is until I started to work at Green's creek treatment plant. I did not know the facts and all the info I had was coming from the media, other rumours etc.. Now I work there and understand the situation. First of all, Greens creek treatment plant handles on average 500 million litres of raw sewage per day, the peak that it can handle is just under 1.1 million litres per day. The plant itself has not gone over its capacity and released to the river in over 20 years. The issue is.......... When the city of Ottawa built its sewers some decades or even 100 years ago, they built some of the sewers with what are called "combined" sewers, meaning that stormwater and wastewater flowed together in the same pipe... They are not seperated. On top of this you now have some pipes that are 100 years old and have cracks that let groundwater in when it rains, floods etc. Also there are people that dump illegally into the sewers( rain downspouts and roof drains illegally piped into the sanitary sewers etc) Combine all of this and the volume of sewage has sky rocketed. The main sewer lines are built so that if the pipe reaches capacity, there is and "overflow" weir that allows to divert the excess to the river. The alternative to this would be to back all of the city's sewers up and fill everyone's basements with sewage. Basically, with the exception of the one major spill last year that the person was fired for, there isn't anybody doing anything wrong, its how the sewer was designed years and years ago.... Sad but true.... It has always happened but until recently it wasn't a news item.... To put it in perspective, approximately 1.5 million litres of water flows past every second in the Ottawa river. I am in no way condoning or happy with the situation to say the least but people need to know the facts.... Up until 1984, Montreal had no treatment plant, it went straight to the river untreated, now they only remove the sediment and then it goes to the river, no disinfection at all, it is called treatment by dilution, Halifax sewer goes straight to the ocean untreated as do most other cities. We in Ottawa should be thankful for the system we do have... We have secondary treatment and disinfection which means water is clean when it reaches the river. No Ecoli or other stuff. The water that goes into the river from the plant is actually as clear as tap water. There is an "open doors" day coming up in June at Greens creek plant and I encourage everyone to come and take a tour of the place, there will be many people from the plant there that are giving the tours and discussing/explaining all the different phases of the process to the public. I think anyone that sees what actually takes place at the plant will appreciate what is done to clean the wastewater and the very complicated process that it goes through. Again, I am not happy about dumping sewage into the river either and not long ago, I said the same things as everyone else on here is saying but now that I actually see what is going on with my own eyes, my attitude has changed a little

[joco]

smokercraft

is it rue or not..that.. last weekend annother 6 million litres. in that river


if true its still not acceptable wathever the reason or what they do or not..nothing should go in the river if its not clean.pure and simple.

if the systems is to small they should just build somethingbigger wathever the cost.
they spend monney like hell in some stuff that re not as important as this.


i am not saying the people dont workd hard or do there best..but the higher people should think off there act and do something.

joco

[Mr. T.]

I can see why everyone is upset and frustrated... Up until not long ago I felt the same way. That is until I started to work at Green's creek treatment plant. I did not know the facts and all the info I had was coming from the media, other rumours etc.. Now I work there and understand the situation. First of all, Greens creek treatment plant handles on average 500 million litres of raw sewage per day, the peak that it can handle is just under 1.1 million litres per day. The plant itself has not gone over its capacity and released to the river in over 20 years. The issue is.......... When the city of Ottawa built its sewers some decades or even 100 years ago, they built some of the sewers with what are called "combined" sewers, meaning that stormwater and wastewater flowed together in the same pipe... They are not seperated. On top of this you now have some pipes that are 100 years old and have cracks that let groundwater in when it rains, floods etc. Also there are people that dump illegally into the sewers( rain downspouts and roof drains illegally piped into the sanitary sewers etc) Combine all of this and the volume of sewage has sky rocketed. The main sewer lines are built so that if the pipe reaches capacity, there is and "overflow" weir that allows to divert the excess to the river. The alternative to this would be to back all of the city's sewers up and fill everyone's basements with sewage. Basically, with the exception of the one major spill last year that the person was fired for, there isn't anybody doing anything wrong, its how the sewer was designed years and years ago.... Sad but true.... It has always happened but until recently it wasn't a news item.... To put it in perspective, approximately 1.5 million litres of water flows past every second in the Ottawa river. I am in no way condoning or happy with the situation to say the least but people need to know the facts.... Up until 1984, Montreal had no treatment plant, it went straight to the river untreated, now they only remove the sediment and then it goes to the river, no disinfection at all, it is called treatment by dilution, Halifax sewer goes straight to the ocean untreated as do most other cities. We in Ottawa should be thankful for the system we do have... We have secondary treatment and disinfection which means water is clean when it reaches the river. No Ecoli or other stuff. The water that goes into the river from the plant is actually as clear as tap water. There is an "open doors" day coming up in June at Greens creek plant and I encourage everyone to come and take a tour of the place, there will be many people from the plant there that are giving the tours and discussing/explaining all the different phases of the process to the public. I think anyone that sees what actually takes place at the plant will appreciate what is done to clean the wastewater and the very complicated process that it goes through. Again, I am not happy about dumping sewage into the river either and not long ago, I said the same things as everyone else on here is saying but now that I actually see what is going on with my own eyes, my attitude has changed a little

I would be interested in the tour. Can you post back or PM me the date?

Thanks.

[smokercraft]

I will post back with the dates... The date is not 100% confirmed yet but I believe it will be the weekend of June 6 and 7.

[smokercraft]

Again, not happy either joco, but build a new system isn't going to go over with the taxpayers. Do you have any idea how many BILLIONS of dollars it would cost. Half of downtown and ottawa would need to be torn up and replaced. as well as a whole new storm water system added to large sections.

[joco]

wit all that rain we have now i gues there will be a good spiled again this days.



http://ottawariverkeeper.ca/news/massiv ... awa_river/

and people its not only the city off ottawa..there is a load off other city that do the same its just that we dont no it and sher dont talk about it.


joco

[smokercraft]

Fact: Sewage is 99.9% water, think of it, flushing the toilet, showering, bathing mostly water.
Fact: Sewage is organic material and breaks down just as other organic material breaks down. Treatment just speeds up the same process that happens in nature with animal feces etc.

[joco]

fact: Sewage is 99.9% water, think of it, flushing the toilet, showering, bathing mostly water.
Fact: Sewage is organic material and breaks down just as other organic material breaks down

so condom...tampons...all those medication is organic..? all soaps all kind off it.all the chemical that clean the toilet the bath etc that goes into the water is organic.

lput that 99.9 % pure water and put it in a bottle and ask them to drink it just abit..if its that pure.

anyway we can be describe its still tons off crap.sorry for the words but this is what it is.

one mm off bad liquid can contaminate 100.s off liter off water and more and more. so that 99.9%...

i am not saying anything to you..but you work there so you got a deferent perspective then other people.


i saw some power plant that dumps like 100 gallons off oil in the river in a week..the guys said no prob there is like millions gallon off water mix to it.....wow nice response..

but if we wll acumulate that stuff at the long run are river is gething toxicated.............


how come wen they test some water they find some medication concentration if its like 99.9% pure in that miliions off galoons there must be a lot in that 0.001%..


like i said again...one drop off bad stuff in your 99.9 pure become unpure in a instant,,


you would be suprise what people flush in toilets and what get flush in drains in some companys or drain in there drains..etc

oil/gas/chemical all kind/medication/acids/etc etc.


joco

[joco]

OK is there a web site where we can see those water test they do in the ottawa river all the test all result..???

joco

[Bass Addict]

What about all the 5 gallons pails heading down the creeks into the Ottawa River....