2d victoria report call.WHAT THIS SPECIES...?

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Mudpout wrote:not sure what it is in English, but in french it's called a Bar Raye, google it, there is a picture on top that is that fishes excact clone. They are an endangered species and i beleive release is mandatory. We are the invasive species, not them.
So where is the natural home/habitat of dreaded homosapien? :lol:

Maybe we should try to get them back into their natural environment. I'd bet most are lost, scared and lonely... The others should be eradicated on site before they do more damage... LOL :lol:
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And the reservoirs in the western states that are full of monster strippers are near saltwater? They are usually anodomous, they come from salt water to spawn in fresh. Now take the great lakes...full of salmon..where's the salt? This would be the stripper version of a ouaouaniche. If its not too far for shad, why is it too far for Strippers? And take a visit to carillon, i grew up right by there and fish that dam religiously. Fish can make it both ways, just not "en masse". When the lower locks open fish can swim in, when they raise the water and open the second gate upstream, they can defiantly make it out easilly. Just gotta get passed all the muskie waiting there....oops

Are you saying that the fish posted here is not the same fish as the link i just put?
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there is mutch species that was in the ottawa river...in the past or now.

they wre salmon in here some time ago..

if you thuink before those dams they was everything.

wen you lookat the french name(alose they stop there at carillion but mabe some goes up in the gates but they sher were gething higher before the dams and so on.

i just think its cool to see other species...but not invading species.

but wen you look at history there a few species that was not here before they were braught here like some trouts.

cant wait to see the resltu..they look at everything the strips on them the number off strip and so on.

should have took more pict and mabe even some close up one..but we just want to put it back in.

joco.anyway all great response guys.
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The chars-salvelinus(sp?) ( brookies, lakers) are native, As is atlantic salmon. The list ends there i beleive. Rainbows are from the west, browns from europe, chinook/pink/coho from the west coast. And of course...CARP are eurotrash.


As for the Carillon dam, I was told by some good ole boys that before the dam was there it was a set of falls. Makes sence because the momuments there are from when the settlers fought the indians, they stopped at what we know know as carillon because they were forced to by the rapids/falls. That location would prob be end of the road prob only atlantic salmon could make that jump, but would they bother since the flume from the rapids was prob prime spawning ground?
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geez guys it is just a White (or Silver) Bass, and a plentiful native species, I catch them on the St. Lawrence often. Striped Bass are a close salt water relative and stocked in-land through out the States much the same way as Salmons are in the Great Lakes. Some states will mix Striper roe and White milt (or is it the other way around :oops: ) together and come up with...........you guesed it a Wiper. As it is a cross it is sterile in the same way as a Splake.
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bardern

even if its only a white bass or wathever its still nice to catch something here that we dont see often ..for me its my first time and i fish that river for the past.38 years.

i ams sher there some specie you dont have areound your area and would be nice to catch.

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nice white bass BA! :)
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bardern wrote:geez guys it is just a White (or Silver) Bass, and a plentiful native species, I catch them on the St. Lawrence often. Striped Bass are a close salt water relative and stocked in-land through out the States much the same way as Salmons are in the Great Lakes. Some states will mix Striper roe and White milt (or is it the other way around :oops: ) together and come up with...........you guesed it a Wiper. As it is a cross it is sterile in the same way as a Splake.
http://www.msstate.edu/dept/srac/bass.htm

From Wikipedia ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_striped_bass

However, according to this article, the WIPER is a fertile fish...http://aqua.ucdavis.edu/DatabaseRoot/pdf/300FS.PDF
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It's a white bass......heads are being scratched by a few in the know on its existence in the Ottawa River.....

TMH....you should contact the MNR if you are indeed catching these regularly.....you seem to be the only one.... :lol: :lol:

Though I do simply see that as another veiled attempt at discrediting BA..... :lol:

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RJ wrote::

Though I do simply see that as another veiled attempt at discrediting BA..... :lol:

RJ

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Congrats on the catch!!

Here is a great resource for Ontario fish info...
http://ecometrix.ca/fishdb/fish_detail.php?FID=127

I agree it is a White Bass... as for how it got there, many ways possible, but it is a proven fact that birds can and do transplant fish inadvertently.
They are in St Lawrence, Nippissing, Bay of Quinte...

So it is suitable that Bass Addict caught it... :D
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[quote="RJ"]It's a white bass......heads are being scratched by a few in the know on its existence in the Ottawa River.....

yeah i think it is a white bass too!
seen many pics of them in books and online, and that is my guess!
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joco wrote:bardern

even if its only a white bass or wathever its still nice to catch something here that we dont see often ..for me its my first time and i fish that river for the past.38 years.

i ams sher there some specie you dont have areound your area and would be nice to catch.

joco
Sorry if you took my post the wrong way Joco :cry: . It is really weird that I catch them with some regularity out here and whites are rare on the Ottawa.
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RJ wrote:
TMH....you should contact the MNR if you are indeed catching these regularly.....you seem to be the only one.... :lol: :lol:

RJ
Hey RJ....I don't think I said I was catching these regularly :lol: ....I believe I said "accidentally catching some over the past few years" just like BA "accidentally" catching one the other night :lol: .......I fish the river LOTS compared to many and maybe it's just the odds of spending so much time on this waterway... :wink: .......why would I even think of calling the MNR???.....it's just a white bass :lol: :lol: .......

BTW, two White Bass were caught through the ice this winter right at the mouth of Buchams :wink:
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All I can say is wow.


To me it looks like an albino smally crossed with a white crappie.
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