bass tournaments=dead fish

[almontefisher]

Now another question. Can your organization post the catch to dead ratio on their respective forums. I would be glad to see a <1% death rate on the bass. It would also allow some numbers for studies etc possibly.

[beachburger]

Doug: This I was not aware of. You can not have more than those bass in the boat. I thought that you could only go to the launch with the limit. So see by informing me of this rule I now feel that you have the right thought. I was thinking that you would have 10 bass and cull them at the end of the day based on weights. Thanks for some more good info. This is a good discussion post now. Keep bringing me the facts and you can change my mind.

It's a club-by-club rule. I can't speak for the other clubs but our livewell limit is 6 fish. The other clubs can chime in here too and I hope they do because this is becoming a good discussion thread.

You can the rules for the Petawawa Bassmasters at,

http://www.petawawabassmasters.com/pdfs ... tRules.pdf

[Robert Goulet]

Let's use the Renegade series as an example. What is the entry fee for an average tournament? Not counting the year end Classic, how much does the winner get?

I'm just curious if the money is even close to being enough to live off of if you were good/lucky enough.

[beachburger]

Can your organization post the catch to dead ratio on their respective forums.

This would have to be discussed at a members meeting. I know the numbers because I keep the stats. I am also the weighmaster for the club so I see and handle all the dead fish. A vast majority of the dead ones have swallowed a hook and that is something happens to all of us (and we probably all feel bad about it. There's that word probably again.....).

I would be glad to see a <1% death rate on the bass. It would also allow some numbers for studies etc possibly.

The numbers given today by all of the area clubs are less than 1% but some days are tougher than others. I think the numbers presented here today have demonstrated to some degree that most clubs and regular tournament fishermen pay a lot of attention to fish care.

[beachburger]

Let's use the Renegade series as an example. What is the entry fee for an average tournament? Not counting the year end Classic, how much does the winner get?

http://www.renegadebass.com/e/TournamentInfo.html

[almontefisher]

Can your organization post the catch to dead ratio on their respective forums.

This would have to be discussed at a members meeting. I know the numbers because I keep the stats. I am also the weighmaster for the club so I see and handle all the dead fish. A vast majority of the dead ones have swallowed a hook and that is something happens to all of us (and we probably all feel bad about it. There's that word probably again.....).

I would be glad to see a <1% death rate on the bass. It would also allow some numbers for studies etc possibly.

The numbers given today by all of the area clubs are less than 1% but some days are tougher than others. I think the numbers presented here today have demonstrated to some degree that most clubs and regular tournament fishermen pay a lot of attention to fish care.

Doug: I would " Probably " say that the numbers have made me rethink the kill off of some clubs and tourneys. I am also glad that some clubs keep such extensive reports. Does your club have reports from the last few years or did this just start recently?? Maybe if a few clubs had #'s from over the years they could help form a part of a study on this. I would like to see how over the years how the rate of die off has dropped due to education and improved rules.

[Robert Goulet]

Let's use the Renegade series as an example. What is the entry fee for an average tournament? Not counting the year end Classic, how much does the winner get?

http://www.renegadebass.com/e/TournamentInfo.html

$5,000!! That's pretty darn good. You won't retire fishing this tour, but it is WAY more than I thought it would be.

[RextypeS]

We at Bass Anglers Association keep all our stats on this as well. We also implemented this year the release the fish away from the dock so either your partner or another team will take the fish 300 meters away from the dock to release since we went from 9 to 20 teams this year. I haven't posted the dead fish on the site but we have talked about posting this stat and I think I will update the site with that stat.

[joco]

guys lets not put are face in the ground here.

mny fish die because off derbies and no one will say its not rue no one.

why prove to mee all thiose fish will live.after a few days...

so will get infected in the area where the hook was..or frome just over heat or just dead tired after the battle.

yes mabe one fish dead at the registration but what about few hour later and the day after and so on.

i see numbers here like more then 300 bass regicterd...how many will lived after a few days..and how many got hurt and hokes and mist by those derbies fisherman mabe as mutch mabe onother 300 fish as an ex..so mabe even more mabe 1000 bass have been hook or relase becasue to small and replace..we dont no it all.and will never no it all..
its imposible to no.

you tell me in those 1000 bass(ex) caught or hurt or wathever one only will die..........ya sher.guive me a brake.

i am no bass derbi guy but been in derbies before.and i do kill bass...its sad but that is life. and that is fishing..so many bass derbies some dead bass are just drop and replace by live ones...etc etc.

yes derbies kill bass and a lot off them........more then anything helse..what can i say..if it was not for the bass derbies..a lot less people would not fish for them...they get so mutch advertisement and it so popular on tv and so on..so more and more derbies start and people all over went to fish bass...so.........those derbies kill bass............YES.

and they cerefull wit bass..i gues most are...its in there benefit to so so..but...het you catch and hurt fish..like it or not and this kill fish...right now or later on.

yes none derbi kill fish to..and all people fishing kills fish.



but look it trully wit open eye..bass derbies are killing more bass then anything hesle is..because off it publicity and what is all around this bass buiseness.pure and simple..

even if they do everything to help the bass....its like a circle..the more they do the more people fish for them and the more bass get hurt and kill..true................yaaaaaaaaaaa.


joco......hey fishing=kill fish...wathever you can do some wil die.

and so many things are not said...because it would not be appropriate to say those thing.



please i would like to no how many bass derbies in north america in one year.?????.all derbies..not only the pros..how many bass have been caught or mist or hurt or live realse etc.?

so those bass derbies kill fish..?

[RJ]

AF,

I think it's great that you are trying to learn something from this thread....I hope others take the time as well....I have learned a few things about other series going on in the area which never hurts....

As far as making a living at it....here's who won what on the Renegade Series last year...

http://renegadebass.com/MessageBoard/vi ... php?t=1022

I can assure the $1230 we won barely covered our gas....

Accompanied by the weights standings at the bottom you will see the numbers you are looking for....

Big Rideau..

http://www.renegadebass.com/2010Results ... u_Lake.pdf

Newboro..

http://www.renegadebass.com/2010Results ... o_Lake.PDF

[joco]

and for all those stats........its all BS.all off it.

how can you (anyone)say how many bass caught in that derbi will die..how.?

all the one misst..or let go in the day or the day after etc..so those numbers are pure bs to calm people down.
joco

stats is numbers..man numbers com on..i can guive you numbers..and none will say the truth....man..this is like freaking..politic bs.

[JimW]

2009 O.V.S. Bassmasters.... 5 tournaments .... 149 bass weighed in... 4 fish were dead.

On our website in the Tournament Results section there is a "penalty" column, each dead bass is a 4 oz penalty and is listed there.

We don't publish a "percentage of fish released" by we try and keep as accurate records as possible.

For our tournaments we are not allowed to have more than our five fish limit of bass in the livewell when moving from one location to another.

If you check the Renegade Bass website they have detailed info for every tournament...number of fish caught....number and percent of fish released...

Bass fishing, like all fishing is not perfect, and some released fish probably die, but many organizations try their best with the resources they have.

Jim W

[cprince]

thanks for the correction RJ about bringing in dead fish. I always thought that if your fish was dead, it doesn't count + you are penalized some weight.

I am enjoying this thread. I am proud to see members with different points of view discussing and not taking shots at each other.

Craig

[joco]

i see peole that are rely involve in bass derbies get some stats out.

please. please stop..its not wort it..............stat is bs plain and simple.


its number off bass..that was dead at the boat launch..come on be realistic.....


ho many will say in a derby ho by the way i kill 2 bass today.and trow it back.and replace them..???.

hey i am no pro..and i do fish for bass a lot these days and i did kill a few huge bass.by acciedent deap troth very very sad..but freeking honest here.

yes bass derbie are very well orgasine and most people wil take care off them.

but the simple truth..fishing kill fish.so fishing for bass will kill bass...cant get out off this its the story.


yes a probably those not meen $$IT......but hey.....if 1000 bass have been caught and watever that day and been like that for 1000 off derbies and so on..

its all a buisenss and bass fishing thing is a very very big buiseness.how mutch monney get into this..a lot...so bad publicity is no good for this.

i see some coment here by some people that are usely quiet but now jump al over why..because they have bass derbies and bass fishing at heart and its ok.

but no one will say bass derbies dont kill bass...like any fish and even worst then reg fishing..because its a like a huge load off people targething them..and publicy the even and get even more poeple to target them and so on big circle.


joco

[Mick]

making a living off a local bass series?

you'd have a better chance making a living reading FH all day at work