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Hi people hope everyone is doin just dandy.


I would like to buy a new reel for everything but trolling. What reel casts the furthest with even light tackle? Retrieves the best. Has a real good drag system and can be used from brook trout to pike.
Include rod if you wish.


And is free.

Just kidding cost not important but I don't drive a porch or have summer home other than a 16' boat.

Fishin loon

Paul

... wow, that will spawn a thread of basically everyones favorite combo.

I use Fenwick rods and Daiwa Hardbodyz reels. I have an Abu Eon baitcaster with an Abu rod.

This is difficult because what is best is really going to differ from one person to the next. Fenwick and G-Loomis make higher-end rods in my opinion. The Daiwa reels are smooth and strongly built but bad for ice fishing.

The cheap Shimano reels are the only ones I have used ice fishing that don't freeze. Like a TX or FX. I have used exepensive reels in winter and they stiffen. Not the Shimanos. Although I don't use Shimano any other time of year; Sorry Big Jim...I don't know why I just don't...

Cheers,

Scott

Hey Scott

I kinda New what the top 3 or 4 rods was going to be. The reels I understand everyone has there favorite's. Mine is Browning but I have seen guys pass buy and just about cast to shore and Are behind me far enough that you cant see what there using and yelling when others are fishing is not cool so away they go. so I am looking for a good casting distance, retrive speed, if bait-caster anti backlash if there is such a thing.
And the line and rod helps to so there I am stuck.

Thanks for your input and how does the reels you mention meet what I am looking for ?

Fishin loon

Paul

The spinning reels I have are Daiwa Kastor and Caprice. They cast well, retrieve well as you want.

What I find more important to casting distince is not the brand of equiptment rather than the set up. A longer rod will cast further than shorter rod. Secondly, light line will cast better than heavy line and newer line will also cast better then old line that contains memory of being wound up all winter. The same goes for twisted line; not good for casting.

Some brands may gear equpment for casting; I have a Rapala Long cast; it is 7'1" and has smaller eyes. I use it for my bush rod; should be smaller but it is the best of my non-fenwick rods. By smaller I mean that it won't cath on trees when on my atv and will allow me to cast when I am on shore in a bush.

I troll with my baitcaster and can't really cast with it so I can't speak for baitcasters.

Perhaps you are asking the wrong question. Perhaps you want to know from a technical standpoint what setups generally cast longer. Spinning vs Baitcaster. Line weights? Type of line; superlines vs mono. Long rods vs short rods.

Cheers,

Scott

Thanks Scott Your input is appreciated.

So if anyone else reads this .
What Scott said....

Perhaps you are asking the wrong question. Perhaps you want to know from a technical standpoint what setups generally cast longer. Spinning vs Bait caster. Line weights? Type of line; super lines vs mono. Long rods vs short rods.

I am Thinking or leading toward a Daiwa TD Viento's reel and
TDCEL 631DSS ML XXF 6'3” 4-10 1/16 - 3/8 8 rod.

But the reel is new not that much info.

Fishin Loon

Paul

Paul,

Found this link which may help. It mentions another for casting but says it is respectable. Says it's more of a flippin' reel.

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewdaiwaviento.html

Looks like an excellant quality reel.

A 7 foot rod will get you out further but the shorter rod may benefit you if you are in back lakes casting from shore. Some high-end baitcasters are one piece; not overly bush friendly.

Cheers,

Scott

Thanks Scott That is a great site and I got a lot of information.

and looks like that's what I may have to get because you can use it with one hand. And I only fish out of my sylvan boat because i am in a wheelchair so its hard to get a place from shore. well maybe we will get some more info with your new post.


So Thanks again buddy

Fishin Loon

Paul

I think you have to decide on your budget first. Then look at reels for that price range. I think you can probably get by on a cheaper spinning reel, but beware cheap baitcasters.

I have a pair of curados and love them.

Hi ady

Thanks for the post I would like the whole setup for around 3 To 400.00
The fire-line is about 25 so the rest I am checking. how far can you cast with your setup and what was the cost?

Fishin Loon

Paul Lavoie

I don't use superlines myself and cannot comment. Berkley Sensation 8lb. on my spinning; casts pretty good. Iron Silk 12lb / 17lb. on my baitcaster; used for trolling; more rigid then Seasation and suspect it is not the best for casting.

You are going to have yourself a nice combo there at around $3/400...

Cheers,

Scott

fishin loon wrote:Hi ady

Thanks for the post I would like the whole setup for around 3 To 400.00
The fire-line is about 25 so the rest I am checking. how far can you cast with your setup and what was the cost?

Fishin Loon

Paul Lavoie

HHMMMM how far can I cast??? depends on the lure I suppose and how good you are - I'm still a relative novice on baitcasters but I haven't noticed that I'm casting short and I can put a lure where I want it. If you have that sort of money available you can get a nice setup - shame you missed Ed's sale in Jan - I got the wife a nice 7' avid for a good price. Personally, with that money ($400) I would spend 2/3 on the reel and 1/3 on the rod. A Curado SF and a 7' Stcriox Premier should run around $400.

Good luck. Good advice would be to go see Ed, he knows his stuff.

Why does it have to be all in one?

If you get to big of a big rod and try to cast a trout spinner with it on 15lb test you will get very frustrated!!

I use a 5ft ugly stik ultralite with a 1000 series abu garcia cardinal spinning reel with 6lb test for trout, bass (most of them...biggest on it was 18" and was a tone of fun!!) and just about anything else I can get away with out breaking. ugly stick are almost indestructable...I accidentally hooked a huge steel head on my ultralite (funny story!...ur probably wondering how it was accidental) and had the fish pull a ton of line testing the rod and reel to the limit and had no trouble...except getting the fish to cooperate.

this set up is about $30 for the rod and $50 for the reel..you could use some other creaper reel if thats too much...its only important if you get a huge one on...if you do take you time and enjoy.

for bigger fish...or fishing slop for bass

I use either use a 8wt fly rod, which probably won't help you, or a 7ft ugly stick lite ( very nice!!) with a 3000 or 4000 series abu garcia...It is an exact copy of the ultralite setup but bigger. Probably still too small for huge pike...but if you want a rod that will handle huge pike and hen trout then I think your out of luck!!

this set up is just a scaled up price from the ultralite...I think the rod was $45 and reel was $55 or 60....still pretty creap...

This is way cheaper than what the other guys said...and will be more versatile and more fun than one rod. And if you private message me I'll tell you one more benefit to these choices.

Why does it have to be all in one?

If you get too big of a big rod and try to cast a trout spinner with 15lb test on you will get very frustrated!!

I use a 5ft ugly stik ultralite with a 1000 series abu garcia cardinal spinning reel with 6lb test for trout, bass (most of them...biggest on it was 18" and was a tone of fun!!) and just about anything else I can get away with without breaking. ugly stick are almost indestructable...I accidentally hooked a huge steel head on my ultralite (funny story!...your probably wondering how it was accidental) and had the fish pull a ton of line testing the rod and reel to the limit and had no trouble...except getting the fish to cooperate.

this set up is about $30 for the rod and $50 for the reel..you could use some other creaper reel if thats too much...its only important if you get a huge one on...if you do take you time and enjoy.

for bigger fish...or fishing slop for bass

I use either use a 8wt fly rod, which probably won't help you, or a 7ft ugly stick lite ( very nice!!) with a 3000 or 4000 series abu garcia(cant remember which it is..I suppose I could go look)...It is an exact copy of the ultralite setup but bigger. Probably still too small for huge pike...but if you want a rod that will handle huge pike and hen trout then I think your out of luck!!

this setup is just a scaled up price from the ultralite...I think the rod was $45 and reel was $55 or 60....still pretty creap...

This is way cheaper than what the other guys said...and will be more versatile and more fun than one rod. And if you private message me I'll tell you one more benefit to these choices.

Skip the baitcaster as a choice here. If you're looking for the bet possible "all around" reel you need spinning.

Basically, any brand such as Shimano, Okuma, Daiwa, Quantum, Abu... you're not really going to go wrong. I find a front drag smoother. The more bearings the merrier. Shimano's Symmetre, Abu's Cardinal 770 or Quantum's PT's are three examples of reels with 5+ bearings that I find good and smooth.

And consider going with a reel rated for 6-10lb test. In Shimano talk that's a 2000 or 2500 series reel. Any retailer will know all other reels created to similar specs.

Most reels now come with a spare spool. You say you're being "outcasted" by others. You need something for spinners for trout, right on up to being able to troll. Personally, I'd put something like 6lb or 8lb monofilament on one spool so that you're geared up for those smaller fish and smaller casting lures, then, spool you're spare spool with 20-30lb braided line. With the braid having a diameter of 6-8lb mono it'll match well with the reel, you should be able to get a good amount of line on, and, these thinner but stonger lines will allow you to cast you're heavier lures for bigger fish a country mile, and, give you a good amount of line to troll. Spinning reels of this size usually allow 100-130 yards of 10lb test. Goind with the smaller lines, you'll have lots, unless, you're trolling for chinooks or real deep for lakers.

If you don't think that the reel is holding quite enough line, consider something like the Okuma Epixor EF30 which is like a 3000 series (rated for 6-10lb lines) reel that'll allow you to spool 250 yards of 6lb or 170 of 10lb test. More than enough.

For a rod, definetely a medium action 6.6 to 7' to cover most applications well.

I have come to the conclusion that I need more equipment and put a different kind of line on spare spool for my rapala reel.

This is a great place for answers thanks everyone. I cant wait to hear what yous have to say about witch planer boards I should get for a mast type system but that's another day. more rods and reels and line.

Thanks again

Fishin Loon

aka Paul