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Question - Black Flies

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:49 pm
by jcorrigan
Ok guys, here's a new one...

My wife is a landscaper and she reacts badly to most chemicals insecticides. She's been using the OFF Botanicals bug lotion stuff but in her words "They swarm up, start laughing, then bite the hell outta me"

Anybody got a trick or two up their sleeve for her?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:52 pm
by beeman
I know that some beekeepers use a sheet of Bounce fabric softener under their hats and claim that it works to keep the biting flies away. Don't really know if it works, but may be worth a shot, and it will smell nice all day long.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:57 pm
by jcorrigan
I had suggested that too Beeman...then I got 'the look' and was reminded that the smell of Bounce sheets gives her migraines....

I appreciate the thought though...

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:16 pm
by Priorguy
hey jcorrigan I wold recommend garlic as it works well for me in the outback when I am fishing. Your skin naturally secretes what you ingest and if you eat plenty of garlic they tend to stay away.

Just a thought...

Priorguy!

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:42 pm
by rfunfarm
Garlic tablets----game-set-match

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:21 pm
by Priorguy
yep.. thats them.. they actaully work for me especially afta a night of bozzen... cause as you know that comes out the pours the next day!

Priorguy!

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:28 pm
by wolfe
It's not a magic bullet, but black flies are supposedly attracted more to dark colors. More specifically, they can more readily hone in on a dark silhouette. So wearing lighter colors might help a little.

I hate the little #$%&*'s. They drive me nuts. :x Thank God they don't last all summer.

Anyone ever hear the Bill Staine's song, "Little Black Flies"? It's funny.

W.

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:30 pm
by TrollingThunder
I don't know if this is an old wife's tale, but I heard bananas attract mosquitoes and black flies if you eat them just before going out...anyone ever hear about this one, or am I just crazy haha?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:36 pm
by Relic
Skin so Soft from Avon.

Biggest thing try to avoid working up a sweat. They are attracted to CO2 so the more you sweet and breathe the more you will attract

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:03 pm
by wolfe
found this bit of info online...

(Black Fly) Control
Black fly control is difficult due to the highly migratory adult stage and their extensive breeding habitat. In terms of personal protection, choice of clothing can be important. Black flies are highly attracted to dark colors, so wear light colored clothing. Light-colored hats that cover the ears are an important precaution. The repellent DEET (diethyl toluamide) is somewhat effective in preventing black fly bites, although swarming gnats may still be annoying even when using repellent.

Larval control is practiced in some areas where chronic black fly problems occur and breeding areas are known. This involves metering of Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis into the flowing water where larvae occur. Trade names include Bactimos and Vectobac, the same products used for larval control of mosquitoes. However, as previously noted, the breeding sites can be many miles away from where the adult insects are causing problems.

Adult control is problematic, again due to the migratory behavior of the insects. It is likely that permethrin-based products are among the best. These are effective against most fly species and are labeled for use in mosquito control and for fly control of livestock.

More Info...

Unlike mosquitoes, black flies are day feeders. Biting attacks tend to show some periodicity. During sunny, warm days peak attacks occur in mid-morning and then have a more intense phase in evening, ending at dusk. However, biting greatly intensifies at the onset of storms and may persist all day when overcast conditions occur.

Black fly attacks on people, cattle, horses and pigs tend to be concentrated around the ears and head. In addition to the blood loss, effects of the insect saliva can cause a variety of problems, with swelling and intense skin irritation most common. Allergenic asthma, nausea and more systemic effects can also occur, a condition known as "black fly fever."

W.

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:24 am
by beeman
TrollingThunder wrote:I don't know if this is an old wife's tale, but I heard bananas attract mosquitoes and black flies if you eat them just before going out...anyone ever hear about this one, or am I just crazy haha?
Isoamyl acetate is one of the compounds that gives bananas their smell. This is a fairly common component for insect pheromones. For example, honey bee alarm pheromone (alerts them to sting) has isoamyl acetate and smells kind of like bananas. It is possible that the black flies are associating to this chemical as well but if you catch a small wiff of it in a beeyard, you know you are in for fun. :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:31 am
by DropShotr
I found this site.....might be worth checking into:
http://www.predatorpee.com/Merchant2/me ... y_Code=BUG

DropShot'r

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:33 am
by jcorrigan
I don't know if this is an old wife's tale, but I heard bananas attract mosquitoes and black flies if you eat them just before going out...anyone ever hear about this one, or am I just crazy haha?
Nope...not crazy...last year she used take a lot of fruit in her lunch to keep hydrated etc. Towards the end of the year she cut back on it and voila...not NEARLY as bitten.

I hadn't thought of the garlic tablets guys...that makes perfect sense!

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:44 pm
by lars56ca
try using a bar of carbolic soap..I buy mine at the local health food store.
just rub the dry bar of soap where ever you need the protection. Works like a charm for me, but everyones body chemistry is different. Good luck

Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:32 pm
by wolfe
Will have to check out that carbolic soap, especially as it seems to work for you.

My husband just got back from our cottage and said the black flies were absolutely horrendous. 'Tis the season! :?

W.