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i bought a pack of tiki wave worms and so far this year it as been the only thing producing bass (awesome bait ). but every time a fish hit the senko would come off the hook.

So my question is: how do you keep the senkos on the hook?

I could go through a pack very fast losing one everytime a fish hit like what has been happening, therefore costing +++ money and could harm fish eating this thing.

have you used o rings on the senko's ? instead of digging the hook through the bait?

What type of hook are you using?
I use a wide gap offset worm hooks and don't lose too many of them.
I've also just started to try out the Gamakatsu Finesse Wide Gap hooks. So far, so good but I'll reserve judgment on those hooks for later. I've only fished them for one day so far.

if you are rigging the senko wacky you can slip a silicone band over the center of the worm then sandwich a circle hook between the band and worm. Lindy makes the bands. this trick was in june issue of ontario OOD's magizine

i use wide gap matzuo hooks.

And what are o-rings? Can you get them at canadian tire? Because thats the only place that sells tackle thats not 45min. away from me

Hey farmerkid, send me over a pm with your mailing address and I will send you over a few samples of everything you need to be catching instead of cursing baits that come off to easy.

Take Care

BIG JIM

Big Jim wrote:Hey farmerkid, send me over a pm with your mailing address and I will send you over a few samples of everything you need to be catching instead of cursing baits that come off to easy.

Take Care

BIG JIM

WOW, Big Jim does it again

40yrs ago I was kid in UK learning to fish in the sea, some of the older guys at the club I joined used to teach me to tie knots, give me old lures, take me out in their boats and generally teach me to fish and to gut and fillet the fish I managed to catch.
I came to Canada 20yrs ago and had to relearn lots of technique to change to freshwater fishing, but those lessons from years ago stuck with me.
Farmerkid, you're a lucky guy, 20, 30, 40 yrs from now this stuff will still be with you.
Jim, thanks for helping me to remember some of the guys who got me started fishing.

Wow ,

thanks Big Jim, your a real generous guy

Personally speaking I haven't used the O rings. What I can say for experience is that much of the 'wear and tear' on wacky rigged stlye baits is done through the act of casting. If you are bombing the bait out and snapping the casting, even the best plastic is going to start to tear. To make the plastic bait last longer, cast lightly and try and lob the bait. This will make the bait last longer.

Reeling in the bait fast in order to make another cast or ripping the bait to get the weeds off also wears the bait. To see this, take one of these plasitcs baits out of the package and fold the bait. At the crease, have a look at the plastic carefully. You will see the strain in the plastic there. Even time the plastic is folded due to the act of casting, reeling, or jerking you are add wear and tear on the bait.

Another tip is, trying and keep the fish from jumping. This is usually when the fish throws the bait. Once hooked up keep the line tight and if needed dip the rod tip to keep the fish down.

Lastly, you don't need to set the hook hard when wacky rigging. A gentle sweep of the rod is all that is need.

With the above techniques, I find the plastic will ride up the line instead of being donated to the bottom of the lake.

In terms of hooks, I like the 1/0 Owner circle hook. Rarely do I miss a hook up and removing deeply hooked fish is a lot easier with the circle hook.

I also use the Yum dingers simply because they are the cheapest. They are lighter and a less durable plastic compared to Gary Y. Senkos or Wave Worm Tiki Sticks but still effective. With that said, I keep a variety of different brands on hand when determining what the fish prefer on a given day.

Cheers,

Mike

If you are going to use O-rings, go to a plumbing store and ask for size 010 or 011. The 010 size is perfect for a 5" Tiki-Stick or Yum Dinger. Expand the O-ring with some pliers and slide the senko into the O-ring then remove the pliers. The O-ring will snug down onto the senko enough so it will prevent perch and other small fish from swiping the senko out the O-ring.

You can also use the 011 size and not worry about needing the pliers to apply the O-ring but you will find that the senko will get swiped by a small fish fairly frequently.

The 010 size also works well on the smaller 4" Tiki-Stick.

And yes I know I have spent far too much of my life investigating O-rings and senkos.

HTH,
Doug

I think I read this in OOD last month, but there was some guy using surgical tubing, wacky rigged Senko and a 2/0 hook. Maybe it wasn't surgical tubing, but I thought it was...

beachburger wrote:If you are going to use O-rings, go to a plumbing store and ask for size 010 or 011. The 010 size is perfect for a 5" Tiki-Stick or Yum Dinger. Expand the O-ring with some pliers and slide the senko into the O-ring then remove the pliers. The O-ring will snug down onto the senko enough so it will prevent perch and other small fish from swiping the senko out the O-ring.

You can also use the 011 size and not worry about needing the pliers to apply the O-ring but you will find that the senko will get swiped by a small fish fairly frequently.

The 010 size also works well on the smaller 4" Tiki-Stick.

And yes I know I have spent far too much of my life investigating O-rings and senkos.

HTH,
Doug

Cool, I'm heading to Home Depot tonight for other stuff (boat-related actually!) and wonder if they carry these o-rings -- any idea?

I would say so. they seem to have everythig else.

o-rings..o-rings...o-rings!

I've been using them for years and they work great! Slide the o-ring over the senko, and put your hook under the o-ring, not even into the senko.

Has saved me a ton of money on buying senko's for sure!

Mike

Basspro wrote:o-rings..o-rings...o-rings!

I've been using them for years and they work great! Slide the o-ring over the senko, and put your hook under the o-ring, not even into the senko.

Has saved me a ton of money on buying senko's for sure!

Mike

Can you clarify? Do you have the bottom of the arc in the hook touching the top of the senko, or, do you basically have the senko sitting IN the arc of the hook (and the o-ring around that)?

The first would look like the hook was barely even touching the senko. The second would look like the senko is sitting in the cradle/arc of the hook.

And, do you still use a wide-gap 1/0 hook, or do you use a wacky weedless, or circle, or ??? hook?

Tx,
Eric