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Asian Carp

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:00 pm
by LeGrand
:shock: Did not know they grew that big.

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Study: Separate Great Lakes, Mississippi basins
By SOPHIA TAREEN, Associated Press Writer Sophia Tareen, Associated Press Writer
46 mins ago

CHICAGO – Connections engineered more than a century ago between the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River watershed should be changed to block the advance of invasive species that can cause irreversible damage, an environmental advocacy group says.

Separating the two basins is the only way to stop the transfer of some species, including the voracious Asian carp that is within 50 miles of Lake Michigan, says a feasibility study issued Wednesday by the Alliance for the Great Lakes.

"If you want to protect the Great Lakes, this is what you have to do. Invaders like Asian carp are unpredictable, but their effects are catastrophic and irreversible," said Joel Brammeier, Alliance vice president and lead author of the study. "You've got to remove their pathway."

Researchers fear the carp, which can grow up to 100 pounds and more than 4 feet long, could eat all the food that's available for other species in the Great Lakes ecosystem, possibly leading to the collapse of the lakes' multibillion-dollar fishing industry, Brammeier said.

Scientists say more than 150 invasive species have entered the Great Lakes, multiplying rapidly and feeding on native species or outcompeting with them for food. Millions of dollars have been spent trying to control the zebra mussel and round goby, which already have moved between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basins.

There are no natural connections between the Great Lakes and Mississippi River watersheds. More a century ago, engineers linked them with a complex network of manmade canals and existing rivers to reverse the flow of the Chicago River and keep waste from flowing down it to Lake Michigan, which Chicago uses for drinking water.

Possible changes include erecting concrete walls and constructing more shipping locks, according to the study. It does not make explicit recommendations, but calls on the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Environmental Protection Agency to conduct further study.

Representatives of the EPA said Wednesday that they could not immediately comment because they had not read the study.

Corps spokeswoman Lynne Whelan in Chicago would not comment specifically on the Alliance study. She said the Water Resources Development Act of 2007 authorizes a Corps study that includes looking at ecological separation of the watersheds, but no funding has been authorized.

The alliance's study — funded by the Great Lakes Fishery Commission and Great Lakes Fishery Trust — gives general cost ranges for some projects. The cost of the most complicated, such as installing a sterile lift to transfer barges between the two watersheds, is listed only as "expensive."

Although locks could enable shipping to pass while blocking invasive species, any type of barrier would slow traffic and cost money, said Stuart Theis, executive director of the United States Great Lakes Shipping Association. Still, he would cautiously support efforts to separate the watersheds.

"We wouldn't object to efforts that would keep invasive species out of the Great Lakes," he said.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:16 pm
by tombiosis
Saw a thing on Discovery about this...they are installing an "electrically charged zone" to stop Carp entering Lake Michigan...Fish are repelled by the electricity in the canal...
pretty cool :idea:

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:35 pm
by Chevy Champagne
weve all been watching to much daily planet lol 8)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:36 pm
by Eli
It's only a matter of time before they're in the great lakes, unfortunately. :evil:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/32468089.html

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:36 pm
by Eli
It's only a matter of time before they're in the great lakes, unfortunately. :evil:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/32468089.html

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:52 pm
by Chevy Champagne
its just a mater of time
:shock: 8)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:09 pm
by Mitch24
Who needs electric barriers when we have hungry fisherman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI6hZU6mi6U

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:24 pm
by jjcanoe
Send Chronzy after them and they'll all be fried up in no time. Maybe Montanas could add Asian carp to the menu??!!!

jjcanoe

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:33 am
by Lunker Larry
I read that electric barriers have been tried on branches of the Mississippi and other bodies of water in that water shed to stop them but it has had little to no effect.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:02 am
by I-make-stink-bait
I like that Cronzy idea.... if that guy will eat a Musky Asian Carp should be no problem

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:47 pm
by Fishinbuddy!
Whoa!! Did Chronzy eat a musky? :shock:

I hope it was a small one if he did.

Please don't kill any muskies. Please.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:25 am
by Chevy Champagne
well look at him :shock:
i think hill eat just about anything that used to proses oxegen :lol: 8)