With the recent frog post I thought I'd toss this question out for everyone.
What do you use for froggin' braid, mono, fluorocarbon?
I do use braid for a lot of applications, but when it comes to throwing frogs give me good ol' 25lb Trilene Big Game and I'm a happy man.
For me, at least, I find mono lays on top of stuff so much better than braid. Braid seems to slink into everything. I seem to be spending more time fishing with mono and more time getting un-stuck with braid.
I also have to retie more often with braid because I find the big heavy baits a lot harder on braid knots than on mono knots.
I find fluorocarbon's lay acceptable on baitcasters, but to me it is over-hyped, over-rated and overpriced.
Just curious what everyone else's thoughts are on this.
DS
What line do you use for frogs?
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What line do you use for frogs?
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I was using 50lbs PP last year, but the spots I fish have lots of pike. I had a surprisingly long talk with Bob Izumi at Orleans Boat World when he was there to launch the new Rangers (happened to be my birthday) and he suggested 65lbs as it seems to be just beyond the threshold of what a pike can easily cut. So I'll be using 65lbs PP on both the rods I might be using for frogs this year.
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At least 50lbs test. Depends around what cover you fish around obviously. Small pieces of grass or sparse weeds 50lbs will be good. If there's a lot of wood, thick pads (hard to cut through!), stumps etc... 65lbs will do but keep in mind your sacrificing distance for a little more strength with the 65lbs. I've been using 50lbs on my flippin' rod and frog rod as well and I find the smaller diameter allows the line to easily slice through the weeds as it is a bit smaller than the 65lbs test line.
Keep in mind braid has next to no stretch so you can get those hooks where they need to be as soon as possible, regardless of the type of cover you're fishing. Are you using the Palomar knot with braid?
Keep in mind braid has next to no stretch so you can get those hooks where they need to be as soon as possible, regardless of the type of cover you're fishing. Are you using the Palomar knot with braid?
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For me a light tippet works best.
There is nothing more satisfying then feathering a sidearm flay cross wind to a pad of lily's. It amazes me to no end when that hand tied frog lands ever so softly, creating just the slightest ripple on the water.
With that, anticipation builds as the thread woven reptile prepares its return venture to the rods tip. It quivers just in the slightest, almost calling out to the fish "I'm here".
An odd sense of electricity fills the air and in that nanosecond just before the eruption, the angler knows that something is about to happen. Subconsciously his mind prepares the reflexive muscles that put into motion a maneuver that has been successfully repeated a thousand times.
Then its happens.......
The Blow Up!
The angler curses himself as he knows that he had not checked the line for issue caused from previous battles with scaly beast. He knows that at any moment his failed good intentions will not be strong enough to hold this trophy of a life time.
It was then, as he looked downward into the tea stained water, probably half praying for the battle to end and half exhausted from what has already transpired, he's see something?
"Oh my god" the angler cries. "It cant be?" he says aloud, hoping the urgency in his voice convinces his mind that it can't possibly be?
The angler drops his rod, forgetting completely about the future wall mount at the end of his line. He is unconcerned about forfeiting his chance to tell the story of catching the big one. He omits any possibility of drunkenly bragging to his buddies as they drink scotch and look at the what might have been on the wall.
He wades forward into the water to get a better look. He knows that if he can get just a little closer he might be able to touch it.
He presses forward, gradually gaining purchase on a moss covered rock. "Just a little closer" the angler thinks.
That was his last thought.
Life has its direction. There must always come an end to a story that started with the greatest hopes and best intentions.
So it was for The Angler.
On that moss covered rock in the water, the very same that the angler so fatefully stepped upon, was found by the sheriff county investigator, a huge ball of 65 pound braided fishing line.
To the other was attached a 43 year old male. Father of 3 boys and husband to a wheelchair bound wife.
He was presumed dead at the scene.
The Sheriff's office's official report submitted by the local coroner, simply read...
C.O.D. Tangled in fishing line while wadding in water, presumed victim drowned while attempting to free himself from fishing string.
But really, I think we all agree.....Braids the way to go if your going top water.
Good luck buddy, hope you get some big un's.
Yours sincerely,
Sparkle the wonder Chimp
There is nothing more satisfying then feathering a sidearm flay cross wind to a pad of lily's. It amazes me to no end when that hand tied frog lands ever so softly, creating just the slightest ripple on the water.
With that, anticipation builds as the thread woven reptile prepares its return venture to the rods tip. It quivers just in the slightest, almost calling out to the fish "I'm here".
An odd sense of electricity fills the air and in that nanosecond just before the eruption, the angler knows that something is about to happen. Subconsciously his mind prepares the reflexive muscles that put into motion a maneuver that has been successfully repeated a thousand times.
Then its happens.......
The Blow Up!
The angler curses himself as he knows that he had not checked the line for issue caused from previous battles with scaly beast. He knows that at any moment his failed good intentions will not be strong enough to hold this trophy of a life time.
It was then, as he looked downward into the tea stained water, probably half praying for the battle to end and half exhausted from what has already transpired, he's see something?
"Oh my god" the angler cries. "It cant be?" he says aloud, hoping the urgency in his voice convinces his mind that it can't possibly be?
The angler drops his rod, forgetting completely about the future wall mount at the end of his line. He is unconcerned about forfeiting his chance to tell the story of catching the big one. He omits any possibility of drunkenly bragging to his buddies as they drink scotch and look at the what might have been on the wall.
He wades forward into the water to get a better look. He knows that if he can get just a little closer he might be able to touch it.
He presses forward, gradually gaining purchase on a moss covered rock. "Just a little closer" the angler thinks.
That was his last thought.
Life has its direction. There must always come an end to a story that started with the greatest hopes and best intentions.
So it was for The Angler.
On that moss covered rock in the water, the very same that the angler so fatefully stepped upon, was found by the sheriff county investigator, a huge ball of 65 pound braided fishing line.
To the other was attached a 43 year old male. Father of 3 boys and husband to a wheelchair bound wife.
He was presumed dead at the scene.
The Sheriff's office's official report submitted by the local coroner, simply read...
C.O.D. Tangled in fishing line while wadding in water, presumed victim drowned while attempting to free himself from fishing string.
But really, I think we all agree.....Braids the way to go if your going top water.
Good luck buddy, hope you get some big un's.
Yours sincerely,
Sparkle the wonder Chimp
Frogs
50 lb Power Pro. 65 lb is too heavy. As mentioned you will lose distance.........and when the water is super skinny you need that extra 10 feet !
If you are having trouble hooking up when throwing frogs it is LESS likely to be the actual frog causing the trouble. It is MORE likely that it is your timing on the hook-set, the actual strength of your hook-set or the type of rod you are using is not quite perfect for that application.
When throwing frogs a few years back up on Constant Lake (yes TK you know the place........) I wrapped my frog around a giant over hanging log......oh it was wrapped ! After a minute or two of trying to YANK that froggy off the log my partner warned of my impending rod breakage. So instead we tied the 50 lb Power Pro around a cleat on the boat , pointed the boat away and stepped on the trolling motor. The log moved a bit then SNAP !!! In fact the metal eyelet on the frog bent open and left the hook in the tree. And the line was fine .
Yes 50 lb Power Pro all the way !
If you are having trouble hooking up when throwing frogs it is LESS likely to be the actual frog causing the trouble. It is MORE likely that it is your timing on the hook-set, the actual strength of your hook-set or the type of rod you are using is not quite perfect for that application.
When throwing frogs a few years back up on Constant Lake (yes TK you know the place........) I wrapped my frog around a giant over hanging log......oh it was wrapped ! After a minute or two of trying to YANK that froggy off the log my partner warned of my impending rod breakage. So instead we tied the 50 lb Power Pro around a cleat on the boat , pointed the boat away and stepped on the trolling motor. The log moved a bit then SNAP !!! In fact the metal eyelet on the frog bent open and left the hook in the tree. And the line was fine .
Yes 50 lb Power Pro all the way !
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What kind of line for frogs.
There was an article in the Winter 2010 issue of Bassman and 4 tournament fishermen were interviewed about what line they used in which situations.
All 4 said the only thing they use mono for was topwaters because it floats.
Frogs are definately topwater lures but that being said I tend to agree with the heavier braid crowd. Or maybe a heavy mono with a fluro leader. Or maybe .... I don't think we are going to get consensus on this one.
Hookup, it was probably 70lb Samurai braid. It's what he put on my flipping reel.
All 4 said the only thing they use mono for was topwaters because it floats.
Frogs are definately topwater lures but that being said I tend to agree with the heavier braid crowd. Or maybe a heavy mono with a fluro leader. Or maybe .... I don't think we are going to get consensus on this one.
Hookup, it was probably 70lb Samurai braid. It's what he put on my flipping reel.
Its Daiwa Samurai braid, I use the same line.Hookup wrote:Ed (Paddletales) spooled something new onto my rigs... Maybe he can remind me what it was... 70test with really thin diameter...
We'll see how it stands up but the first thing I thought of was, nothings getting out of the weeds/lillies this season... not even sunken merc's...