Dist,
Please apologize for the influx of questions I am continuously throwing your way these past few days, I really don't mean to come across as annoying...
That said, I was curious of the following. Currently I only have the one rod in my aresenal, with a floating line on it. Next year or maybe over the winter depending on prices I may purchase a second rod/reel and put some sort of sinking line on it. Beeing from Southwestern Ontario, we don't typically have any fast moving water like here, so usually the weight of the fly will eventually sink.
However, I've now been to the Long Island park twice now and found that with the current, my fly doesn't really sink all that much, am curious as to a good way of giving it maybe some weight? I have a 9 foot tapered leader on, with about 18-24 inches of tippet as well. The most i could think of would be some sort of split shot maybe?
Thoughts? Suggestions? Criticism?
Sean.
Weigh down a fly.
If you're tying your own flies, you can use lead/lead substitute wire on the shank combined with a bead or cone head. If you're using pre-made flies, you can add split shot to the tippet or slide a bead/cone head on the line before tying on the fly.
You can pick up the bead heads at Float,Paddle & Fly/Green Drake and, I believe, Le Baron. The tungston beads are heavier than the plane-jane ones.
Jerry
You can pick up the bead heads at Float,Paddle & Fly/Green Drake and, I believe, Le Baron. The tungston beads are heavier than the plane-jane ones.
Jerry
Jerry,Rybren wrote:If you're tying your own flies, you can use lead/lead substitute wire on the shank combined with a bead or cone head. If you're using pre-made flies, you can add split shot to the tippet or slide a bead/cone head on the line before tying on the fly.
You can pick up the bead heads at Float,Paddle & Fly/Green Drake and, I believe, Le Baron. The tungston beads are heavier than the plane-jane ones.
Jerry
Thanks for the suggestion. For now, just pre-made flies. Over the winter I'll probably get into tying but it would really be my first go at it.
I'll look into some tungston beads.
you have several options. you can choose to weight your fly heavier or add split shot. the other route is to try a sinking line like you've already mentioned.
"These are the floating fly line, the sink-tip fly line, the intermediate sinking fly line, the sinking fly line and the fast-sinking fly line."
http://www.flyfishinggear.info/buyers_g ... uide4.shtm
You can also just buy a sinking leader which is some 20' of sinking line and attach it to your floating fly line in the similar style as a sink-tip fly line described in the article above. i've just purchased one of these at float paddle and fly for about $20 or so.
Also, you don't need an entire other setup dedicated to sinking line. you can investigate getting an extra spool for your reel and spool that with sinking line rather than investing too much money in an entire outfit.
personally, i've gotten by just using split shot to this point but i will definitely be buying an extra spool with sinking line on my next outfit this fall.
also IMO, if you're using split shot on a streamer, i'd also recommend leaning towards heavier tippets. if i could help it, i wouldn't go any lighter than 4-6lb test streamer fishing if there were bigger fish around.
just my 2 cents. hope this helps.
"These are the floating fly line, the sink-tip fly line, the intermediate sinking fly line, the sinking fly line and the fast-sinking fly line."
http://www.flyfishinggear.info/buyers_g ... uide4.shtm
You can also just buy a sinking leader which is some 20' of sinking line and attach it to your floating fly line in the similar style as a sink-tip fly line described in the article above. i've just purchased one of these at float paddle and fly for about $20 or so.
Also, you don't need an entire other setup dedicated to sinking line. you can investigate getting an extra spool for your reel and spool that with sinking line rather than investing too much money in an entire outfit.
personally, i've gotten by just using split shot to this point but i will definitely be buying an extra spool with sinking line on my next outfit this fall.
also IMO, if you're using split shot on a streamer, i'd also recommend leaning towards heavier tippets. if i could help it, i wouldn't go any lighter than 4-6lb test streamer fishing if there were bigger fish around.
just my 2 cents. hope this helps.
It does help quite a bit. I do have a heavier tippet already so I should be good on that front.wongrs wrote:you have several options. you can choose to weight your fly heavier or add split shot. the other route is to try a sinking line like you've already mentioned.
"These are the floating fly line, the sink-tip fly line, the intermediate sinking fly line, the sinking fly line and the fast-sinking fly line."
http://www.flyfishinggear.info/buyers_g ... uide4.shtm
You can also just buy a sinking leader which is some 20' of sinking line and attach it to your floating fly line in the similar style as a sink-tip fly line described in the article above. i've just purchased one of these at float paddle and fly for about $20 or so.
Also, you don't need an entire other setup dedicated to sinking line. you can investigate getting an extra spool for your reel and spool that with sinking line rather than investing too much money in an entire outfit.
personally, i've gotten by just using split shot to this point but i will definitely be buying an extra spool with sinking line on my next outfit this fall.
also IMO, if you're using split shot on a streamer, i'd also recommend leaning towards heavier tippets. if i could help it, i wouldn't go any lighter than 4-6lb test streamer fishing if there were bigger fish around.
just my 2 cents. hope this helps.
I really appreciate the article, will give it a good read over lunch.
I definitely chuckled to myself w.r.t. your comment about swapping out the spools on my reel. I don't think that'll be an option given that the rod/reel is a few years older, and is definitely on the "cheaper" side to say the least! (it's okay though, it does the trick for me and I enjoy it).
Again, a sincere thanks!
HereMyGo,
I fish Long Island regularly and use strictly floating line. With the exception of two holes, the depth is typically less than 5'. Fishing with heavier beadhead and conehead flies (or even clousers) is the ticket.
One note regarding heavier leaders, some leaders are specifically designed to sink or float. Your standard leader will sink the same as mono. That being said, in current the thicker your line, the more resistance it will have, such that the current will tend to want to lift it at the end of your drift.
If you're just throwing streamers/nymphs you can simply use a piece of say 6-8lb mono rather than a tapered leader.
Now another option, if you're not ready to pick up some sinking or sink tip fly line is that you can pick up a sink tip "loop to loop" extension that can be added (when required) to the end of your floating line.
Cheers,
Todd
I fish Long Island regularly and use strictly floating line. With the exception of two holes, the depth is typically less than 5'. Fishing with heavier beadhead and conehead flies (or even clousers) is the ticket.
One note regarding heavier leaders, some leaders are specifically designed to sink or float. Your standard leader will sink the same as mono. That being said, in current the thicker your line, the more resistance it will have, such that the current will tend to want to lift it at the end of your drift.
If you're just throwing streamers/nymphs you can simply use a piece of say 6-8lb mono rather than a tapered leader.
Now another option, if you're not ready to pick up some sinking or sink tip fly line is that you can pick up a sink tip "loop to loop" extension that can be added (when required) to the end of your floating line.
Cheers,
Todd
Todd,Todd B. wrote:HereMyGo,
I fish Long Island regularly and use strictly floating line. With the exception of two holes, the depth is typically less than 5'. Fishing with heavier beadhead and conehead flies (or even clousers) is the ticket.
One note regarding heavier leaders, some leaders are specifically designed to sink or float. Your standard leader will sink the same as mono. That being said, in current the thicker your line, the more resistance it will have, such that the current will tend to want to lift it at the end of your drift.
If you're just throwing streamers/nymphs you can simply use a piece of say 6-8lb mono rather than a tapered leader.
Now another option, if you're not ready to pick up some sinking or sink tip fly line is that you can pick up a sink tip "loop to loop" extension that can be added (when required) to the end of your floating line.
Cheers,
Todd
Awesome advice, I think I'll have to explore it a bit more then.
I think maybe I'm not fishing the right locations then, because I've walked all the way from the barnsdale bridge down abou 400-500 meters (about 200 meters short of the dam).
Walking back and forth I haven't seen anything with any substantial size or had any indication that there was at all. I don't want to give up on the location yet, because I think it has potential (and from the sounds of it it does).
I don't know maybe I'll try somewhere else (i.e. Strathcona or Bates island)
I'm very much excited with this new area and the potential for serious fly fishing!
I'd love to find an area that has a large amount of pike or musky in it, i've always wanted to get one on.
Todd,Todd B. wrote:That particular stretch doesn't get much more than 5' deep. The deep holes are downstream of the dam. Let me know if you'd like me to show the ropes for that stretch some time.
Cheers,
Todd
I actually would like that. It's a shame I came up to the area so late, your summer outings would have been great to head out to!
I've read most of the reports that you have after the outings, and will have to go back to them upon reading this now.
I'm going to give that spot a third shot today I think then, this time I'll try and go past the dam. The problem is, I was parking at the park, and walking down stream towards the dam. I think this time I'll try to find alternative parking (closer to the dam) or try to cross the river in a shallow section (i'm only like 5'6) so that's probably why I never made it around the bend or closer to the dam yesterday, today i'll be a bit more brave knowing now where I can expect to find some fish!
I REALLY appreciate just that little bit of advice, saves me atleast from wandering aimlessly back and forth down that little section.
Sean.