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ganman wrote:I fly fished those rivers for years and August and September are my favourite months in the Adirondacks.
I stopped posting my trips because it seemed nobody cared less other than yungflyfisher.
Ganman seeing its your favourite months up there maybe you will post again soon, as there are few post in this forum and even if we dont reply we still read.
Manfred good post try to get some pics up next time. Looking at getting into fly fishing my self, its encouraging to see someone new at the sport catching fish.
Yeah Beachburger thats the main reason Im looking for now . Gotta save for the truck I plan to purchase in a few months, but come spring Ill be driving out to a couple of favourite spots with my fly rod in hand .
S.M.05 wrote:Yeah Beachburger thats the main reason Im looking for now . Gotta save for the truck I plan to purchase in a few months, but come spring Ill be driving out to a couple of favourite spots with my fly rod in hand .
You mean my fly rod Mike!!!
How long have you had it for now???... and still not used it!!
Ok Luke you have inspired me to remove your fly rod from ebay and catch a least one brown trout on it by the end of this weekend.
Not sure about the 15yr old line on it though.
Anybody have suggestions on flies I should be using this time of year for browns?
I haven't touched that fly rod in more than a few years now but I would guess some kind of streamer flies.. Assuming your fishing a lake. In a river or stream, I would have no idea whatsoever... been outta the game too long!!
I'm sure you'll get some suggestions here...
It appears that we kind of hijacked this thread. Apologies to ManFred for doing so. Mike I would start another thread and ask about suggestions for flies!
On Monday 20 August 2007, I wrote a big report on my latest trip to Malone on the weekend. I called it "I like Salmon but Sam don't Cook for Me". Those familiar with the Sam Cook bridge on the Chateaguay might correctly conclude from that title that I was roundly abused by the fish at the Sam Cook bridge (a situation that still interests me) but did pretty well on the Salmon.
I don't know why the message disappeared when I sent it. If the "Powers that Be" censor somebody here, do they tell that person about being censored?
Anyway, I am assuming it was some kind of technical error by me or my computer and not censorship.
Also, except that I had hoped that some of you might have found some of the report useful, I am comfortable enought in having it disappear, since I got into a couple of issues that I am not sure about.
I am looking for a couple or few smooth runs or pools near Malone where I can fish dries in the evening without having to drive from Ottawa to the Au Sable. I named a few places that I know of and why they don't quite satisfy me.
I was content enough to have the message disappear, though, because I wondered about what people would think about identifying such fairly specific locations. My first thought is that it would be okay for us to do this. The basics of the information is already easily available on the Public Fishing Rights maps posted on the DEC website. Most of us posting here (and, I assume, visiting the site) seem to be located about two hours' drive from the locations. Also, I would think that most of us are releasing all, or substantially all, of the fish we catch. Finally, even with the number of people that might visit this sight, it probably is an insignificant fraction of the people who would already know about these specific locations. As such, I would think that sharing this information here would not have any appreciable effect on these locations.
If others agree, it would be good to hear. Then it would also be good to hear some suggestions for a few good spots in Upstate New York that are not too far from Ottawa and that would be particularly well suited to a dry fly in the evening for the rest of the season.
If others disagree, though, that would also be good to hear. I have enough contoversy in other parts of my life and would like to keep my fly fishing peaceful.
I was also left wondering how "safe" it is to report just how good a day one might have had down there. For the sake of this conversation, I understand that the "catch and possession" limit is five. If someone reports something like "I caught and 15 or 20 fish last Saturday", are they advertising that they broke the law, or is it legal to catch and release until the cows come home?
I acknowledge that I can eventually answer many of my own questions with enough time spent on homework. The catch and possession question probably falls into that category. Still, it would be nice to know quicker.
So, what's okay to talk about here? And, uh, about those locations for dries in the evening...
I just noticed a reasonably significant typo: That one hypothetical line in the post I made a moment ago should have read "...caught and RELEASED 15 or 20..."
I wondered about what people would think about identifying such fairly specific locations
Hard to know what you mean by "specific locations" because I never saw what you wrote. I'm of the opinion that for well-known bodies of water, specifying a general area is OK but specific locations are not required. For example, "fished a bunch of pools in the stretch about half a mile south of the Sam Cook bridge" is fine but something like "the slack water on the north bank 250 yards east of Sam Cook bridge" or "the run at GPS co-ordinates xxxx" is not. If you were looking to start a discussion on a particular spot, perhaps take some pictures (avoid or Photoshop out obvious landmarks) and discuss what can be seen in the pictures.
That said, I have given fairly specific locations on the Ottawa River in Arnprior to catch catfish, mostly because there is no shortage of cats in the Ottawa River and they are not a targeted species by many. However, there is no way I would give up locations of my favorite spots for bass, walleye and, hopefully someday, trout on any message board. I much prefer to fish those spots by myself.....
In Ontario you can C&R until the cows come home. I'm not sure about other jurisdictions but I would be very surprised if this was not the case in all provinces and states (although there might be some exceptions for a certain species on certain bodies of water).
You can catch and release as many trout as you wish.
It won't hurt giving specific locations on these rivers. 1) The trout population in both rivers are mostly stocked trout (headwaters excluded). A hard truth is the composition of these rivers makes them subject to a great deal of winterkill from a phenomenon known as anchor ice. So much so that in spring before they stock the river it seems barren. Catch and release of stocked trout under these circunstances really dosen't help much. 2) No sarcasm intended but who on this board really cares?
The exception to the above statement is in regards to wild and holdover trout. If you fish these rivers long enough you'll get a good idea of what they look like and where they come from.
If you want to find these beauties learn about achor ice and temperature. If a trout is to live from year to year it must have access to refuges.
You can catch trout all day long on dry flies this time of the year on both rivers. Terrestial insects make a large part of trouts diet now and they are most active in the afternoon. You don't see grasshoppers winging around in the morning or night.
At night its usually caddis-they flutter around and look like moths. Of the mayflies left there are the white flies-all white #14. You'll see them just before dark. At times it'll look like a snowstorm. They are about now and they are heavy on the lower Salmon. Another mayfly that comes along in a few weeks is the Isonychia or slate drake, mahogany dun etc.. It's big-sz 12 darkgray/brown. The nymph of this fly swims like a minnow. It is about an inch long. Try a peacock herl nymph like a Zug Bug fished in fast water around boulders. Fish it with short quick strips. Don't use light line because the trout hit it hard.
I haven't fished these rivers in a few years but am heading down for a weekend in September to fish the Salmon and maybe the Chateaugay. I had heard about a dam spill on the Chateaugay. What impact did it have on the river and what section was impacted?
Any tips on flies for mid September. It's been a few years but from memory some BWO's, Isonychia's, Trico's maybe still some terrestrial's
. Gotta save for the truck I plan to purchase in a few months, but come spring Ill be driving out to a couple of favourite spots with my fly rod in hand 
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