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Trout Throat samples
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:51 pm
by worm31
Hey
Has any one ever taken a throat sample or opened a stomach up of a trout from the ottawa valley area. If you did what did you find?
Worm
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:11 pm
by troutnmuskiehunter
What are you expecting to find and why are you asking??
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:38 pm
by mosquito
In no particular order:
1. all types of minnows and sticklebacks
2. crayfish
3. snails
4. mayfly nymphs (about 6 different types)
5. dragonfly nymphs (2 different types)
6. damsel nymphs
7. lady bugs
8. chironomids (both larva and pupa)
9. scuds
10. cranefly larva
11. caddies larva of at least ten different kinds
12. leaches (brown, black, maroon and grey)
13. giant water beetles and predacious diving beetles
14. backswimmers/water boatmen
15. sigarette butts (a lot!)
16. plastic worms
17. huge fishing hooks (couldn't believe they could fit there)
18. mud puppies
19. water snake
20. smelt and lake herring
21. perch
22. daphnia
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:59 pm
by worm31
Thanks misquito
I was asking because i plan on doing some trout fishing in calabogie and want to have a large variaty of flies and know what all the possiabities so i dont get skunked. Are chrionomids popular in those lakes?
Worm
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:20 pm
by Todd B.
Worm,
Each lake has its own characteristics. What to fish on any particular lake will come with experience. Having a selection of generic attractor patterns is always good to have on hand.
Getting skunked on any particular Calabogie lake is always a possibility. Some days you're just not meant to catch any fish. You just have to live with it and just keep fishing.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:26 pm
by mosquito
Yes, you'll see a lot of chironomids on some lakes at certain times, not everywhere. As for "get skunked" part, everybody get skunked one time or another. You'll be there too, no matter how good are your flies and how many of them you carry around.
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:05 am
by Fishboy
Good list, Mosquito....especially the part about cigarette butts. I haven't seen them in any trout I've kept, but I've seen trout take them off the surface. I'm told it all but guarantees that a fish will die from ingesting them.
To effectively fish a given fly you need to understand how the real thing behaves...think like the fish food. That's what presentation is about.
For example, if you are fishing a leech pattern, think about how a leech is likely to swim and where it is likely to be in a body of water. Slow it down or speed it up until you get hits. If you still don't get hits, change flies and adjust the presentation accordingly.
Re: Trout Throat samples
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:11 am
by troutnmuskiehunter
worm31 wrote:Hey
Has any one ever taken a throat sample or opened a stomach up of a trout from the ottawa valley area. If you did what did you find?
Worm
Not sure if anyone else has seen this...for the past 2 years now I have been finding a lot of parasitic worms around the stomach and intestines of brook trout in the Calabogie area..the worms actually look as though they are part of the intestines because of the quantity of them. The parasites look like very, very thin spaghetti and can stretch out to ~4" long...
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:18 am
by SnagMaster
good list mosquito
it does depend on the lake, the time of year, type and age of the fish
i have also seen green algae, and small bits of gravel (white quarts)
it seems when they feed anything is fair game
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:13 pm
by worm31
Anyone have any cigarette butt fly patterns?;)
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:47 pm
by beachburger
http://www.fishwest.net/Merchant2/merch ... de=WW04CBF
Looks like some deer hair and a small strip of mylar will do the trick.....
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:53 pm
by orrsey
not in the same are but in about 50% of the lakers I have kept this year they have had wave worms in their guts...some with more than one. On one hand its concerning that they are eating them and they can not digest them, on the other Im thinking of throwing some wave worms into my box next time I go after them.
orrsey