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Post by **bottom feeder** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:06 am

Hi all
I have never fly fished but have a telescopic fly rod w/line.
I dont know anything about this sport.
The line looks too thick to attach flies, ???
What do I need??
If someone out there could show me what to do I will be forever in your debt(well maybe just for 1 day)
Thanks all
Norm

Post by **bottom feeder** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:22 pm

I have been doing some i-net reading and now know a little about tippets and these tapered leaders.
My next question is which store in Ottawa should I go to for these products as well as some much needed advice?
Norm

Post by **Jigs** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:46 pm

Hi Norm. Guess all the fly guys went to Charleston.

I know diddly squat about where to shop for fly stuff in the Ottawa area. Most of my equipment was bought in Smiths Falls or Brockville area.

For what to use, check out Fly Fishers on line. Very good site.

Give Ganman a PM on this site. He is well versed in the sport.

Wish I could be of more help.

Good fishin:

Jigs.

Post by **bottom feeder** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:09 pm

Thanks Jigs I will do that
Norm

Post by **Jigs** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:23 pm

WOOPS

Fly ANGLERS on line

Sorry:

Jigs.

Post by **Moosebunk** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:02 pm

Really BF, Orvis Green Drake is probably the best resource and fly shop in Ottawa. That being said, their products are probably the most expensive too.

What would you like to fish for with a fly rod BF??

Post by **bottom feeder** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:32 am

Hey Moosebunk--I figure I would like to try for bass on the rideau below hogs back in Ottawa. There should be room to practise casting, but I think I really ineed someone locally to take me out and show me how to do it
I dont know what type of line is on this reel, or what size tippet and leader to tie the flies to.
This is why I thought that a local shop might steer me in the right direction without having to lose an arm or leg.
Yesterday I was reading about nail knots and the like, then lost four hours in a fly fishing game.
Thjanks for any info
Norm

Post by **Moosebunk** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:15 am

bottom feeder wrote:Hey Moosebunk--I figure I would like to try for bass on the rideau below hogs back in Ottawa. There should be room to practise casting, but I think I really ineed someone locally to take me out and show me how to do it
I dont know what type of line is on this reel, or what size tippet and leader to tie the flies to.
This is why I thought that a local shop might steer me in the right direction without having to lose an arm or leg.
Yesterday I was reading about nail knots and the like, then lost four hours in a fly fishing game.
Thjanks for any info
Norm

For bass norm you could go out and buy a tapered leader of a certain length and test but, it's totally not necessary at your stage in the game, or, at anytime for that matter. Simply 6-9 feet of the monofilament you would normally use for bass (6-7 feet probably good enough) should be attached to the fly line. I personally would use around 10lb test just because. You do not need to get fancy. Tapered leaders have their place, ie, they're a must for dry fly fishing, but bass, pike and walleye for instance can be handled just fine with regular mono.

Secondly, to avoid the knot hassle for now, make life easy and get yourself some loop connectors. http://www.eaglesportscenter.com/produc ... inex1a.jpg Make sure when you purchase these that the package or someone gives you the directions, and, be as sure as you can be as to what weight your fly line is. With these connectors you can make yourself up a few mono leaders ahead of time that are looped themselves at one end, and the just loop to loop leader to fly line. Makes things quick and easy, and you can carry tonnes of premade leaders of various strengths, lengths and styles to steamside, changing whenever you want to, quickly.

You need to know what type of line you have. Most likely it is a floating line. For bassing at Hogs Back you can probably get away with that, but, I've fished parts of Hogs Back too and if I recall it can actually be pretty deep and fast in places, and a floating line will probably not serve you well to get flies down to the bass in those locales. You'll be needing to fish with your floating line in shallower slower parts, I would think.

Because the line on your reel is probably older then you shouldn't feel to concerned with taking your fly rod and practicing you casting in an open area that has nice cut grass, no snags and no water. Try that first before going and making a fool of youself at the river

You'll need some flies for bass too. Ottawa has places.

Post by **bottom feeder** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:06 am

Thanks alot MB for the info. I learned alot from this post. I will do just that.I have a large field behind the house to practise and make these leaders up.
Thanks again
Norm

Post by **Todd B.** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:24 am

Norm,

Did you manage to pick up the gear you were looking for, as well as the necessary terminal tackle? Have you managed to get out on the water to do any fishing yet? If you need some suggestions on locations just give me a shout and let me know how far you're willing to drive.

Cheers,
Todd

Post by **bottom feeder** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:14 pm

Todd I haven't picked loop connectors up as I am not working, but start new job this weekend.
When I do I would appreciate a few tips.
As for travelling I live in Ottawa too so dont mind travelling.
Thanks Norm

Post by **Todd B.** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:23 pm

Norm,

Ok, feel free to give me a shout then.

As for your loop connectors here is an interesteing article
http://flyfisherman.com/skills/erloops/index.html

Cheers,

Post by **fly fishing canada** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:41 pm

go to orvis green drake on Holland Avenue opening in mid August. It is the only shop in Ottawa and they will treat u well. For leaders i suggest orvis premade knotless, make sure your fly line has a mono loop at the butt of the line, and if not use a nail knot to attatch a loop with heavy mono. Use a loop to loop connection with the orvis leader, and buy some tippet. Depending on the species you plan to fish for vary your tippet size. For wary trout go right down to 6x, but for buckets and pike go for a 2x. For large trout go for a 3x i think, but i have caught a pair of massive bows on 4x, though i don't recommend it

. Any more q's just PM eh, i hope this isn't confusing.

RL

Post by **Todd B.** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:40 pm

Norm,

If you're looking to get out on the water ASAP, you can pick baided loop connectors at:

LeBaron Sports
Sport Action
Ovis Green Drake (when they open the new store)

Myself, to be safe I like to tie a nail knot around the rubber sleeve just to be safe...don't want my loop connector to slip off with that BIG fish.

Cheers,

Post by **beadhead** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:20 pm

You mean like that smallie that's swimming around the bridge at Blakeney with my fly, split shot, tippet, leader, and stupid *#$(% braided loop connector with the stupid $#^@^# heat shrink tubing that doesn't %@#$#@ work?!!!!

(I'm sure it wasn't operator error

)

....and then I learned to tie a nail knot on the water.

Necessity might be the Mother of Invention, but I like to think of it as the poo poo child of Desperation.

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