Monofilament line

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Monofilament line

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I was watching a Joe Humphrey's video on nymphing in fast water and there he was casting with what appeared to be standard mono line. He says its the fastest way to get down to the bottom of the stream. He also added a lead leader about 12" long attached to a short tippet of about 8". This arrangement limited snag ups on the rocks.

Everytime I bring up this topic at a fly shop, they always say, "Oh, you don't want to get into that!" and I suspect their reasoning is that they really want to sell me a more expensive sinking line (of which I have several already). Has anyone here casted with mono (not the disease) and had success not getting all tangled up and if so what did they use? I have seen others doing it but didn't manage to get near enough to ask.

And speaking of fast water, I was talking to a Eganville local who says they are indeed catching browns on the Bonnechere. Apparently, you can walk downstream from the village and catch them in the various pockets. He says they are stocking between Douglas and Eganville. So there is your gossip for today!! I'm going to give it a try on the weekend.

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Bob,

For nymphing, I use 8lb Stren Hi-Vis Gold then tie on a 12" section of tippet.
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Thanks Todd,

Where can you get it and does it really stay untangled? Mono has such a memory.

Had a great late afternoon at Appleton. Water was murky from the rain but at the river entrance, I got into a real pile of small bass. Most were Rock Bass but there is another small bass with no real markings on it and I got one about 1.5#. What is the name of that bass? Its not small or large mouth. Its the same one we caught at Blakeney only at Appleton they are larger.

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Bob,

You can find it at pretty much any of the tackle shops. As for memory, it's not too bad. Besides the stuff is cheap compared to tippet material. Just tie up a new leader if it begins to coil.

Hmmmm...other kind of bass? I'm pretty sure the only bass in these parts is SM and LM. Depening on the water they're in LM and SM may not exhibit their distinct patterns, rather just an overall colour.
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I've ended up with Seaguar fluorocarbon 8# test but WHOA!!!!, how do you cast it??? It seems you have to wait until your fly is back cast to its extreme before you start your fore cast otherwise its on your head!! It seems a bit easier the lesser weight of rod. Unfortunately my 4wt broke the other day and is in for repair (I told you I was rough). Anyway, we're headed off to Lower Twin tomorrow in the camper so I'll try it off the float tube. Any tips on casting is appreciated.

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Bob,

If you're high stick nyphing you should not have very much fly line out so to speak, since you always want to be in contact with the fly(s). A simple over the shoulder flip or a roll cast is all that's needed to lob your fly upstream.
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Well, I tried the mono on still water in the float tube and it is even harder to cast but it is really great when you want to get deep and long. You feel much more of what is happening on the other end. One of the problems is when you catch a fish. As I was pulling in this 10" rainbow, I thought that if it had been much larger and I had to let it run out, I could have gotten into some real trouble. It tangled bad once and I had do cut it off and make a quick tie. I suppose you could wind in the reel when you catch but that's loosing half the fun of flyfishing as far as I am concerned.

Managed to land 6 bows on Thursday and 8 on Friday, 4 in one hour between 8 and 9 AM. All released. I'm not taking pictures in the summer as I want it back in the water absolutely as soon as possible. I frist try to release while they are still in the water. Anyone here know why the water is so warm in the morning and then the coldest at noon. This is the opposite of what happens on mountain lakes out west (as far as I can remember).

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Post by ganman »

Bob,

Water in a lake or pond is very stable compared to air temps. It takes a long time for water to warm up and cool off. Sort of a delayed reaction. Especially when they are deep with sharp drops. Were your lakes out west shallower with more flats?

Other reasons could be....Most obvious is the water"feels" warmer when the air is cooler in the AM. Or if you confirmed it by taking the temp the water could continue to cool while sun is off the water however on a very hot dry day rapid evaporation will cool the water too....same principle as a canvass creel works. Surrounding rocks will have an effect on the water too. A big granite finger will hold heat along time and warm the surrounding water too. I suspect your lakes in the west didn't have as much flat rock either
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ganman,

Now this is going back a long time for me, like when I was a kid camping with my dad on fishing trips. I don't remember ever seeing mist coming off the lake in the morning but it is common here, even on the rivers. I hope to be doing some fishing out west again and I will certainly check it out. I think I better get a thermometer. Any suggestions, anyone? I'm thinking of taking part in the MVFN temperature study of the Mississippi River System in August so I may be better informed then.

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Post by Fishboy »

Bobfly,

The morning mist on lakes here in the east is due to the humidity combined with the temperature. Out in Alberta the air is much drier, so there likely wouldn't be the same effect. It certainly makes summer much more bearable!
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