Oldman,
My suggestion would be to check them both out and make your own choice. I'm sure they are both great clubs with perhaps some differing oppinions on certain topics.
Folks, I don't mind a healthy debate about issues of deep passion, however I do not condone hijacking threads to put on political hats and run for office. I also don't condone calling people liers or showing disrespect for people's oppinions. There are better ways to converse with people and get messages across without potential impacts to people's reputations. This is a friendly community board, or at least this is what we've been striving for from day 1. Healthy debate is good. Disagreement of oppinion is OK, but name calling and accusations based on potential heresay is childish.
I'm unfortunately going to have to lock this up now. Please feel free to start another thread on the topic, but keep it civil, respectful of each other's views, and mature. If not, I'll lock that one as well and we'll be done with those types of conversations.
