WOULD YOU KILL A RECORD MUSKY..?

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Relic wrote: Well, I come to that conclusion based on the fact that 1000's of muskies anglers have been looking for that fish for decades, and have yet to find her. So the odds that she would caught twice while at record proportions are almost nil.

Don't need any science to back this up just some common sense...think about it...Literally millions of hours in pursuit of the "Queen" yet no one has found her.
I like how you mention only common sense applies here and not science, and you then back it up by introducing probability by throwing out the term "millions" implying there is x/y probability...much like winning the lottery.

In any case, I don't mean to bring up semantics, I just found it kind of funny...back on point..you say millions of hours in pursuit of her, when this actually isn't the case. Anglers who go out in pursuit of ANY musky. Not one in particular. They only HOPE that the one on their line is a record breaker.

My speculation, is that she hasn't been found because people are keeping ones smaller than her. For example, we suppose the Queen is 70 inches...you catch a 68-69 incher...you are going to put it back? My point is, she DOES exist...people just don't let her get to that size. Because as she nears that size, people that catch her might have the "man she'd look good on my wall" thought race through their minds...some rid themselves of that thought and put her back, others though think that this will be their PB ever, and jump at the opportunity to mount the trophy.
Sorry never was any good at algebra :lol:

It is common sense to your point of some one else catching her after you release her. C'mon that WOULD be like winning the lottery..........twice??? The majority of muskie anglers I know (and I know a few) ARE specifically targeting big fish. Doesn't mean that's always what ya get, but once you have caught a few dozen sub 40"-45" fish your thoughts and your focus turn to bigger specimens. Willing to sacrifice #'s for more size.

Oh, she exists...somewhere out there, I have NO doubt about that. In all honesty I dont know if I could kill her if I caught her, so I truly hope somebody else catches her, thumps her, and we can burry the hatchet on all the "what is the record" nonsense. I know what the record is.........BIG

As for people keeping them....catch and release has grown leaps and bounds. In factual statistics the release rate for muskies is near 98% To be accurate you could take a few off that number. Still very high. And for the most part the people catching these larger fish are dedicated muskie angler's who release 100% of their fish except maybe "THE ONE" we are speaking of. Sure some BIG fish are caught incedentally and kept but not enough to have that kind of an impact.

The facts are that there maybe a few GIANTS out there, but the vast majority of the population of muskies in the entire continent just do not have the genes to grow to record size.

The bigger they get the larger their home range, the more keyed they are to a certain forage, the harder they are to find and fool. They most likely eat LESS often, prefering to gorge during prime feeding conditions. A fish of record size would have a "playbook" much different than your average forty incher, almost as if they are a different species all together.

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Firstly, it very likely wouldn't happen to me. Record trout maybe - but I don't specifically target muskies...

Now, truthfully, if I happened to catch a World record muskie, I would most likely enter it for the record books. I would feel bad about it, but the cheques from sponsors would help ease the anguish.

On a positive note, I caught a 23.5" smallie this summer and released it - no pictures to prove it, but it really did feel right. It was not even close to any official record, but was my PB - and for that I have fond memories to last me forever... priceless.
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Post by hatterharry »

YES, I would keep it. It is, after all, just a fish; it certainly would not destroy the population of the lake. In fact, it probably would be an older fish, long past its prime spawning time.

Plus, as others have said, what a piece of history to own!!
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Well said Relic!
Has there not been some catches by commercial fishermen on st.larry and great lakes that are in the 80+ range? way bigger than any ever caught angling
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TLunge

we could ask the same thing to commercial fisherman on the ottawa river.

there 3 off them on 2 permit on the upper ottawa.

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Joco, I enjoyed reading your report about" WOULD YOU KILL A RECORD MUSKY".

I probably would not keep it for my wall. If a fish that old and thay big survived all those years, it deserves to live longer. Though if I was confident it was a record and it really was bleeding from the gills and I knew it wouldn't survive, I'd enter it for the world record, and put it right above my bed. :wink: 8)
Like many of you guys said," I don't fish to be in the record book", I'm the same way. The three fish I have most respect for aremusky/pike, bass, and sturgeon.
All in all I would let her go to live the rest of her life. :wink: :D
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You are my hero !

"Dead Muskies don't follow,
dead Muskies don't hit,
dead Muskies don't fight and escape,
dead Muskies don't give you the thrill of a lifetime and
dead Muskies don't reproduce.
They just hang there: dead worthless curiosities."
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Post by joco »

great response guys.

we sher dont have to kill it.

simple pic can do the job..but its leagl to do so and everyone has there own choice.

sad to see a sutch an old fish go on a wall......after what he went tru to get that old..

and wen that big you cant even eat it.....so its just to show. :? .

pict and let it go..this is somthing to be very proud.off.

every response is good.

thanks guys.

joco :)
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I wouldnt, thats why they make replicas...

Just because its legal, to me its not ethically right.

A replica would look just as good on the wall and may last longer...

ID put the big girl back and thank her for her time..
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Why not just make the muskie fishery catch and release only and take away any temptations. If your after something to hang on the wall go shoot a deer. It burns me to to see any size muskie being caught and kept by people. I for one am in favor of a muskie tag to be sold in addition to a licence. kindda like a deer tag. This would keep the everyday, unexperienced, unequipped angler from attempting to catch muskie. It is harder for people to keep an undersized if they know they cant keep them regardless of size. You don't see anyone stuffing a sturgon.
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Crusty wrote:This would keep the everyday, unexperienced, unequipped angler from attempting to catch muskie.
So because you bought 100 pound test Braid and a pair of bolt cutters you are special?....absolutely ridiculous....
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Post by joco »

C mon guys.keep it interesthing..

we all have the right to are opinion.

and if the fish is legal..its legal to keep it.

and we all have are opinion if its right or not.

it could be the same for bass......why kill bass.....some do some dont even think abaout it...again we all have are opinion..and its ok.

me i do eat bass and love it. but dont eat musky..my choice and wont push it to anyone..

and do think replica is the way to go....again personal choice.



the question.would you.kill it for a record under your name.?

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A limited number of tags would keep pressure down. Catch and release may keep yankee's at home. A little education with the tag may prevent small fish from washing up dead. SAD SIGHT AT BLAIR. Catch and release only would keep the walleye angler from keeping a 8 lb ski.(Which I have seen personally). It would also keep the selfishness of any angler from keeping a record to him self. Is your willy that small that you need to hang something on the wall to fell better about your life.
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With a reply like that , I see why they named you '' CRUSTY ''
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