Future Shore Fishing Spot on the Jock River?

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Future Shore Fishing Spot on the Jock River?

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I know the Jock River is not on everybody's list as a body of water to fish but I thought I post this anyways. :)

I'm in the process of buying a home and I was looking at the different spots in Ottawa and came across a location known as Half Moon Bay. Apparently, the bend in the Jock River along Greenbank Rd. is Half Moon Bay, I didn't realize there was a name for it. 8)

I was able find a sitemap of a proposed shore fishing spot and canoe launch. I drove by it yesterday but they're years from completing it.

http://tamarackhomes.com/siteplan-hmb-all.html
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well it was nicer before they put in the drainge culvert from the subdivision that is going in there!!!!! they took away all the parking on the side and boulders.....they only good things they did with the place is take out alot of the trees and such!!!
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I love how the builders try to put a green spin on their developments. The new development that has been done over the last two years has decimated what fish populations existed in the Jock between Greenbank and Prince of Wales. By the time the development is completed you'll just be washing your fishing gear from that dock.

It's a real shame as it was a very good fishery.
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Yea...last year I took my son there to catch some perch....being that he's only 5, he loved it....but I don't see that being the case this year...as all the reeds have been removed.....

I guess they don't see that we already have a problem with the sewage in the ottawa....they most likely affects all the tribs along the southern parts of the river....they are introducing more watse water right in the middle of decent fishing holes!!!!!

I have had it with subdivisions going up all around the waterways....all they do is create problems!!!!!!!
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It's ridiculous!

They are trying to build a Minto subdivision in Manotick called Mahogany Harbor or something, after the Mahogany Bay in Manotick.

I hate these subdivisions, they are swallowing up my town, slowly.

These things are destroying our waterways!!! They dump into the Rideau! There are tons of these stupid Minto Tamarack, style homes that are putting sewage into the river. They have some form of filtering, which is basically a bunch of stones, with gravel and stuff, to filter the waste water before it's allowed into the river, but still, I don't think they are super effective.

I may have to move to "Stonebridge" aka, Jock River Killer #1 which I believe was the first subdivision on the Jock in the area, besides the little Heart's Desire neighbourhood 20+ years ago, which didn't do much damage.

Riverside South is another one which dumps wastewater into the Rideau just below where the jock meets the Rideau.

The houses suck and are all identical, it's like a neighbourhood of clones. I would never live there. I know some people like it, but these places ruin everything.

In 20 years Manotick will probably just totally surrounded by these settlements.

Another one, was the one in Leitrim, which destroyed part of a wetland and most likely decimated all the trout in the stream there.

The good thing is the home developer, scratched plans to build a 2nd subdivision on the wetland area, and allowed the land to be kept as a wetland SUPPOSEDLY, i don't know if their story is true or not, or if they had to stop development because of environmental noise, or gov. ban. Either way it's stopped and hopefully Findlay Creek can still have a nice little population of Native Fishes, and stocked ones. But I have a feeling the creek is done.

In 40-50 years all of these subdivisions will be huge ghettos, and even bigger eyesores!

You know the low income housing around Bayshore and Pinecrest? That's basically what that will be in 50 years. Tacky, crime ridden and ugly! No thanks! I don't want that in my neighbourhood.
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I agree. Urban sprawl in Ottawa is rampant. Build up, not out. I used to live in Manotick, but I wouldn't now. Ottawa is going to be such a dump in 30 years!
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Hey T, I think they are missing the point. Looking for a new home pretty much precludes buying a boat. Shore fishing is all you'll be able to do. :cry:

Don't worry I'll save you a seat. :)

Good luck with the house hunting!
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Yawn @ FishingIsHealing :roll:

Thanks Joey Rat for the encouragement and the seat offer. :D

I put an offer in and signed my life savings away. If everything goes according to plan, I will be in a new house by this time next year. I'm staying in Orleans, too much snobs in Manotick. :shock:
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Mr. T. wrote:Yawn @ FishingIsHealing :roll:

I put an offer in and signed my life savings away. If everything goes according to plan, I will be in a new house by this time next year. I'm staying in Orleans, too much snobs in Manotick. :shock:
I actually agree with you. I love living in Barrhaven for its convenience to everything, proximity to fishing holes (I walk to the Rideau River and catch fish... how fun is that!), and it is a great place to raise my family. Congrats on the new home purchase! I'm positive that subdivisions don't just "dump" into the rivers -- their stuff goes through the same sewage systems as the rest of the city (which isn't saying much: See the Ottawa River fiasco's lately).
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Hey T...You should have a good home from Tammarack...As long as it is not built by Matamay you should be good. As for the development killing the river it will come back once they are done. They did something similar in Ottawa a long time ago and you would never know they destroyed the area. Looks better now than it did.

Again T sorry to hear your loss ( new boat ) but a new house is a better investment anyway. :wink:

So which one you buying??? Any lot premium for having a good spot. My buddy had to pay $30,000 over and above for his lot premium :shock:
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I hope that they haven't actually disrupted the shoreline by pulling reeds.

Anyway, I have had luck there in the evening for walleye (most between 12-17 inches long) and have seen a four pounder landed there as well.

I think the farmlands flanking the river are more detrimental to the river's health than the subdivisions will be—I hope I am right anyway.
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Well, while I was out there, I just drove by and took a quick look, didn't stop. Not really knowing what it looked like before, I can't really comment if the shoreline was affected or not, nor did I notice any sewage going in there.

I've been looking for a few years now and I too have heard stories regarding Mattamy, mostly after sales and stuff not being completed or done on time. They are actually the only builder who's sales office I have not stepped into because of that. I've been to most of the other bigger builders and I settled on Tamarack who is a smaller, local builder. I didn't have to pay for a lot premium and I have no cable boxes, fire hydrants or lamp posts out in front and I know the city has the final say in that. There where others that had a lot premium...AF, did your buddy buy a corner lot? Based on what I remember of the sitemap shown to me, the higher priced lots where usually the corner lots.

Anyways, to try to get this thread back on track, I will have a big basement to store my fishing gear now. :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Contrary to what people seem to think there are only a handful of stormwater outflows that are tied into the sewage system to provide overflow capability.

That being said, all of the storm water ponds south of Hunt Club that empty into the Rideau and Jock consist of surface runoff only. While it is not raw sewage, it is still not simply rainwater, as any motor oil, fertilizer, insecticides, etc washed from the roads and lawns eventually makes it into the storm water ponds. After a good rain the outflows from these ponds are typically grey in colour, a far cry from being simply rain water.

In defense of Minto, their storm water ponds are actually designed well and allow for silt, etc to settle out prior to discharging the water into the rivers. Now in the case of heavy rains, the amount of settling is reduced due to the volume of water moving through the system.

Some of the other builders in the area are not implementing the same storm water settling pond designs and are the ones I would be more concerned about with respect to river siltation.

As mentioned in an earlier post, the developers do a good job at repairing the visible damage that has been done to the shoreline, however, it is rare to see any aquatic rehabilitation performed. We as anglers are the only ones that "see" whats going on below the water.
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T: He has an end row unit on a townhouse so that classed as premium lots....lol. What a crazy thing huh. Yeah my buddy has 87 defficiencies in his house and they are not great at fixing them. Tamarack is a great company and will respond to your complaints and concerns. Just go in as much as you can to see the process as once the drywall is on you do not know what is hidden behind it :wink: I am about to move into a bigger home as well with a basement and I already told and I mean TOLD the wife I will have a man room down there...I will not tell you what she TOLD me :cry: . Anyway she has a laundry room and I have a man room. I did need to purchase a " thank you honey " gift to have it :lol:

Good luck T and keep us posted
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